2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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5. Bigotry, particularly racism, transcends class interests.

Reply to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 01:00 PM

Jan 2017

This is why it's foolish to think, "If we just had a more progressive economic message, we would win much more often."

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I think I have a good understanding of why Hillary lost, but what I still don't get [View all] Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 OP

So-called "white working class" is mad because they are becoming a minority and think their plight Hoyt Jan 2017 #1

so they are getting more desperate as the country gets more diverse? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #3

Bigotry, particularly racism, transcends class interests. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #5

so how do we get over bigotry??? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #6

For starters, we won't ever eliminate it. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #12

wow-- that's great. I didn't know that was something that existed Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #47

This kind of attitude is exactly WHY Dems lost... NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #7

Wow, you sure got that backwards. That's some mighty hefty and undeserved bashing of Democrats. JTFrog Jan 2017 #8

No he has some good points jzodda Jan 2017 #10

Thank you NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #21

You're overlooking the elephant in the room. Repugs cheat. brush Jan 2017 #29

What else is new? Did Obama just whine and give up? NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #31

Who's saying give up, or is pissing and moaning and complaining? I'm clearly saying fight... brush Jan 2017 #36

what conformity you are talking about??? Example? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #48

something at the top of my list is for Dems to call out Repub cheating more forcefully Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #49

It is very much deserved and needed NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #17

Yea, let's just not focus on Republican cheating or foreign influence. Let's keep bashing the good JTFrog Jan 2017 #18

If Democrats stopped being so goddamned exclusive NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #20

Exclusive?!? JTFrog Jan 2017 #53

Well let's deport Mexicans, trash Blacks, kill Muslims, etc., because that is what white wing Hoyt Jan 2017 #9

+1 nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #13

Oh bullshit! NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #19

What's bullshit is the narrative that says Clinton didn't talk enough about economics/jobs. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #23

This is NOT just about Hillary Clinton NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #26

Again, 80% of his supporters are Birthers. That's verifiable, not merely an assumption. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #28

Oh for fuck's sake that is not true NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #32

Okay, it's 79%. I've posted this numerous times before in response to your posts. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #42

She's associated with NAFTA BainsBane Jan 2017 #44

Did you vote for Trump? If not, then learn to read. Hoyt Jan 2017 #33

Nope, but I have relatives who did and they don't hold the views you are claiming NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #35

Voting for someone you know to be a racist, bigot, and worse is a tip off, don't you think? Hoyt Jan 2017 #37

Nor does Hillary hold the views BainsBane Jan 2017 #45

treated like they are stupid? stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #2

okay, but Hillary wasn't that weak and Trump was awful Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #4

Actually, the Dems picked up 5(?) seats in the House and 2 or three in the Senate Chitown Kev Jan 2017 #11

good point. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #15

Senate races are statewide and can't be gerrymandered like House of Representatives districts. n/t 24601 Jan 2017 #14

right-- so what is the explanation for the GOP success? Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #16

My undergrad didn't have formal majors, but was the equivalent of poly sci. My take is that there 24601 Jan 2017 #24

The repugs cheat. They always cheat. See post #29 brush Jan 2017 #30

But I think gerrymandering still impacts statewide races. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #25

Interesting article about it. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #22

Liberals are piling up in cities. LisaM Jan 2017 #27

seems like we keep hearing the Dems are going to flip these states any day Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #41

it did in Virginia and Colorado and while we still lost texas , Hillary made gains from previous JI7 Jan 2017 #43

ah, good point-- slow but incremental improvement in some states Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #50

What Have You Done For Me Berlin Vet Jan 2017 #34

yes, seriously!!! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jan 2017 #54

In my state, Koch's, NRA and other Repubs provided millions more in TV ads wishstar Jan 2017 #38

ah yes-- the $$$ factor Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #39

A lot of people were dissatisfied with the status quo. senz Jan 2017 #46

I heard a charge made, I beleive on the Thom Hartmann radio show yesterday doc03 Jan 2017 #52

Dem's stayed home. joshcryer Jan 2017 #55