2016 Postmortem

aintitfunny

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45. Good, accurate points made

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 05:57 PM

Jul 2015

I agree with you. If Hillary is the nominee, I will vote for her. In that process I will overlook those who were out of line in expressing their support for her and enmity for my candidate during the primary, just as I hope her supporters will overlook the most vehement Bernie supporters.

I choose to support Bernie Sanders for a lot of reasons. I do not, at the moment, support Hillary. Not because of the dynasty argument, though I understand where people are coming from when they lay that claim. I think they use the term dynasty when they mean: "more Clinton and Bush?" Dynasty is an easy term to use, but I don't qualify it as "manifestly dishonest."

Bernie caught my attention with his absolute stances, his priorities and his honest representation. I choose Bernie because he supports what I want. He says what I say, believes what I believe and I want the revolution to achieve the change we so desperately need.

Hillary's bona fides are unquestioned. She absolutely supports many things that I do. But I am not excited. Bernie lights a fire, I am running with the torch.

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I just have to say something about this dynasty crapola [View all] dsc Jul 2015 OP

It must be hard for some people to see the Clintons got an education, worked hard to get where Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #1

Drive, ambition and knowledge, used to be good qualities Sheepshank Jul 2015 #61

Yes, she isn't a one trick pony show. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #62

If a Kennedy or Clinton were running on LWolf Jul 2015 #2

And the last Kennedy to run for POTUS was Ted. 35 years ago. hifiguy Jul 2015 #91

Sanders has positions, true, but a sparse record of achievement George II Jul 2015 #95

His record of achievements LWolf Jul 2015 #103

The last Clinton elected president was in 1996 LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #3

And, besides that, LG.. It's sexist and demagogical. Hillary is her own person.. she's not Cha Jul 2015 #74

And has her own impressive list of achievements George II Jul 2015 #96

Yes, very much so.. thank you, George. Cha Jul 2015 #99

Not only all that which is all true, but she could divorce Bill OKNancy Jul 2015 #4

Sorry. Not a valid comparison. She would always be know as the Cleita Jul 2015 #7

so, she is not related. I true dynasty means a relation OKNancy Jul 2015 #20

She will never be Madam President. She has too much baggage Cleita Jul 2015 #23

bookmarking OKNancy Jul 2015 #24

"Facts are stubborn things..." DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #40

Dynasties are passed on parent to child Sheepshank Jul 2015 #63

He would not be President treestar Jul 2015 #112

that's a good comeback restorefreedom Jul 2015 #11

If she hadn't been married to a president artislife Jul 2015 #54

If Bill hadn't been married to Hillary he may never have been President. We will never know. Metric System Jul 2015 #57

We didn't elect her first. artislife Jul 2015 #58

lol! Really? HappyMe Jul 2015 #59

You have no idea the extent to which she made him a better poltician dsc Jul 2015 #68

It's a wonder how progressives are so dismissive LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #73

another desperate attempt spqr78 Jul 2015 #82

Not that their policies are similar dsc Jul 2015 #85

I don't doubt that. spqr78 Jul 2015 #86

When he lost his first bid for Governor, it was Hillary who convinced him to run again and was his Metric System Jul 2015 #79

But if Michelle ran for senator artislife Jul 2015 #97

So what do you think of kids of famous people getting jobs over Cleita Jul 2015 #5

Jackie hated public life with the intensity of a million suns especially after her husband was dsc Jul 2015 #9

My point is that she wouldn't be a public figure except for Bill. Cleita Jul 2015 #14

frankly if you take out the sexism of the 70's dsc Jul 2015 #16

In the times when we had royalty, the queen had to be as well Cleita Jul 2015 #22

running the state department isn't executive experience? dsc Jul 2015 #25

True. spqr78 Jul 2015 #83

Sometimes they had to marry their brothers but I'm not suggesting that either. Cleita Jul 2015 #84

If a sister marries her brother... spqr78 Jul 2015 #88

Such bull LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #30

that's bs JI7 Jul 2015 #37

I agree with the OP Martin Eden Jul 2015 #6

well said. daybranch Jul 2015 #19

Thanks Martin Eden Jul 2015 #26

My feelings exactly! Thank You...nt abakan Jul 2015 #50

well said. spqr78 Jul 2015 #94

Teddy Roosevelt was FDR's 5th cousin (once or twice removed); he was Eleanor's uncle. dflprincess Jul 2015 #102

You are correct Martin Eden Jul 2015 #110

Your first assumption is false and the rest is immaterial whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #8

So was FDR. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #32

I don't see privilege as whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #36

Can America become a kibbutz? Adopt the Amish model? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #72

you've got it backwards spqr78 Jul 2015 #98

So the President is like a Porterhouse? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #101

no, but the last several presidents have been liars and thieves. spqr78 Jul 2015 #108

We all hear about how congress has a single-digit approval rating. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #116

Some struggle to see a woman doing the same job her husband did ... and not ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #10

This.The double standard is practically slapping the sufrommich Jul 2015 #12

Dynasty would apply to the Bush family whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #13

So a former Senator and SecState is unqualified to be President? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #18

Sure, she's qualified whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #33

But that is not nepotisim. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #38

Well... whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #41

those who see trouble with her '.. being able to be her own person. ' HFRN Jul 2015 #31

None of that has anything to do with "Dynasty". JoePhilly Jul 2015 #34

it was a direct response, to a direct quote of yours HFRN Jul 2015 #35

LOL ... lame. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #39

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #44

'This is abuse of the system. ' HFRN Jul 2015 #70

.. Cha Jul 2015 #75

While I agree it's not germaine to the dynasty subject tazkcmo Jul 2015 #49

Good Post. bvar22 Jul 2015 #42

Did you even bother to see how each of those dollar amounts panned out? of course not.. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #66

At least some people were concerned SheilaT Jul 2015 #46

some of us are worried... spqr78 Jul 2015 #92

It's a dog whistle. It's exactly the same as the petty rumor sufrommich Jul 2015 #15

The dynasties that really need PATRICK Jul 2015 #17

I don't particularly care who the candidates are married to DemocraticWing Jul 2015 #21

Wal-Mart and Kissinger. spqr78 Jul 2015 #93

a·pol·o·gist HFRN Jul 2015 #27

... SidDithers Jul 2015 #113

... HFRN Jul 2015 #114

A simple dictionary.... quickesst Jul 2015 #28

Nice comparison of Jeb and Hillary. But those are not our only choices. djean111 Jul 2015 #29

"coronation" is also bullshit Lil Missy Jul 2015 #43

Good, accurate points made aintitfunny Jul 2015 #45

"Hillary's bona fides are unquestioned" oasis Jul 2015 #76

Dynasty or not. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #47

timing. spqr78 Jul 2015 #48

Does Bill Clinton become President without having met Hillary Rodham? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #78

sexist? spqr78 Jul 2015 #87

Admit what(?) is true? LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #89

So much... spqr78 Jul 2015 #100

"Google: DLC, third way, centrist, New Democrat or Al From" LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #104

The subject, then... spqr78 Jul 2015 #106

Okay, I can deal with that. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #107

Little ones in the morning!?!? spqr78 Jul 2015 #109

The Clintons as a Brand... LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #115

100% correct. Hillary Clinton is not a "dynasty" candidate... Mike Nelson Jul 2015 #51

Good post. Popcorn 51 Jul 2015 #52

I certainly can't speak for others but I don't care what or who the relatives of a person running... BlueJazz Jul 2015 #53

I don't consider the Clintons as a dynasty... however... MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #55

None of that means shit to me. HappyMe Jul 2015 #56

I am with LWolf on this ... A fine Oregonian is he .. Trajan Jul 2015 #60

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #64

wow calling a gay poster sissypants dsc Jul 2015 #65

Jury Results on the hidden post StevieM Jul 2015 #67

A couple of jurors (one who voted to hide it and one who voted to leave it) tblue37 Jul 2015 #69

Bravo. Couldn't have been said better. I'll kick this OP until GE Day. oasis Jul 2015 #71

... Scuba Jul 2015 #77

Yes how dare that bastard dsc Jul 2015 #80

regardless, I've had enough of Clintons and Bushes.... mike_c Jul 2015 #81

*this* Cleita Jul 2015 #90

She'd have plenty of her own baggage even if she'd never met Bill Clinton tularetom Jul 2015 #105

I agree, plus it is not a blood tie treestar Jul 2015 #111