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Leopolds Ghost

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7. I apologize if I over-reacted, it's just that we don't experience all this stuff at my local Occupy.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 04:03 AM
Feb 2012

Everyone from the anarchists to the faith groups to the mainstream political organization groups tries to stay in solidarity with the GA hereabouts, and we've gotten criticized by young and eager folks from NY for being "insufficiently confrontational" because of it.

I agree with you that pointless vandalism and such is cancer to the movement, and I'd go further and say that stuff like flag burning and other slogans go against the message Occupy is trying to put out, which is why Occupy relies on GAs (it's not just flag burning or vandalism, but things like moochers printing "Support Occupy -- donate money" and panhandling for personal gain, etc.) in short, Occupiers need to try to let the GA process correct for this stuff or else having GAs is pointless... if it wasn't consensed on by any local GA, then don't use Occupy as a cover for actions that are not in solidarity with the Occupy message. Beyond that, it's a discussion over tactics... but in general repudiating provocateurs is sufficient, the media will not care how we responded if a brick is thrown, they will only report on the brick, because the media goal is to destroy the movement and they can always find or hire someone to do something that will upset TV-land.

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occupy is protest mdmc Feb 2012 #1
It depends on whether violence (including property destruction) is being forced 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #2
I agree they should isolate BB and hand them over to the Police. In Toronto people were applegrove Feb 2012 #3
I disagree. This is red-baiting hysteria -- the idea of using bamboo poles (<sp) to corral Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #5
Please 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #6
I apologize if I over-reacted, it's just that we don't experience all this stuff at my local Occupy. Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #7
We agree on pretty much everything. 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #9
I don't think the NYPD would aprove of protestors UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #10
I don't think it matters the structure zeemike Feb 2012 #4
The structure may not matter to you. 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #8
And they need to be vigilant zeemike Feb 2012 #11
Agreed! Vigilance + to KNOW one another for REAL. patrice Feb 2012 #17
What should Occupy members do? I believe that they should distance themselves physically Vincardog Feb 2012 #14
That was the jist of what i said last weekend in OccupyKochTown ... patrice Feb 2012 #15
I would argue that violence itself is implicitly hierarchical starroute Feb 2012 #12
I agree strongly with what you are saying here. I also have a footnote derived from some observation patrice Feb 2012 #16
I participated in a GA for OccupyKochTown in which this question was a high priority when the patrice Feb 2012 #13
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