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eridani

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76. Holding power is bad?

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 03:34 AM

Apr 2012

If Occupy does not want power for the 99%, why does it exist? The only way to elect people to office is to belong to an organization that has that as its purpose, and that takes voter contact seriously. No third party formations qualify--they are mainly excuses for progressives to talk to each other instead of their neighbors.

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yes, 99% spring is a fraud [View all] xchrom Apr 2012 OP

I'm not sure what you're saying. drm604 Apr 2012 #1

i'm certainly not young. xchrom Apr 2012 #2

My experience was entirely different. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #3

You'd prefer it be a bunch of teabaggers?? kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #4

Dems want their own tea party. This is their attempt. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #29

It was a confusing article... KoKo Apr 2012 #5

Here at Occupy LA, many of our greatest contributors are 55+ U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #15

I went to one and it wasn't anything like that. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #6

Was there any discussion/consensus about supporting the Occupy General Strike Zorra Apr 2012 #7

No, it was about organizing in local activites and how to engage people. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #8

So 2 Occupy groups and nobody mentioned the May 1st General Strike? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #12

The unions don't seem to have been consulted on the General Strike. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #14

So that is a yes? Nobody from the 2 Occupy groups mentioned M1GS once? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #16

Well. 99% Spring isn't Occupy. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #18

I'm glad we're clear that the "99% Spring" is NOT Occupy...never will be. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #19

"99% Spring - An Occupy-Like Movement For People Who Want To Be Told What To Do?" Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #27

I attended one on Saturday. grntuscarora Apr 2012 #9

Was there any discussion/consensus about supporting the Occupy General Strike Zorra Apr 2012 #10

Not that I heard. grntuscarora Apr 2012 #11

So what part was inpried by Occupy? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #13

Well, according to the printout they gave me grntuscarora Apr 2012 #17

Of course they used the language of Occupy...that how they hook you. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #20

And that Occupy supports neither candidates nor political parties. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #24

And... greytdemocrat Apr 2012 #25

Wait until you get a load of this: Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #26

Not naive. Directly experienced with Occupy Zorra Apr 2012 #28

Whereas MoveOn has always been suspect for so many of us activists: truedelphi Apr 2012 #42

Not quite sure how retired people are supposed to go on strike eridani Apr 2012 #61

I'm still a bit concerned about co-option Joe Shlabotnik Apr 2012 #21

Minus One Mc Mike Apr 2012 #22

Why don't they just tell people to join Occupy? Hmmmmm.... Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #23

Exactly. If they are supposedly so concerned with helping Occupy, why aren't they at the GA?? this is serious Apr 2012 #52

NO alliances with those who want to turn Occupy into a Dem tea party. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #30

I am a progressive Labor Democratic Ally of Mc Mike Apr 2012 #31

What are Dems doing to stop the continuing illegal foreclosure machine? Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #32

Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio Mc Mike Apr 2012 #35

Good for her, a voice in the wilderness... Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #37

All right, Fire. I see my problem here. Mc Mike Apr 2012 #40

Thank you for demanding "representatives" do exactly that! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #41

Is it the fault of the Occupy supporters that the truedelphi Apr 2012 #44

I am sure as the election cycle heats up, the Obama Administration will get with the truedelphi Apr 2012 #45

A Marine and his family whom Occupy had helped fight foreclosure Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #47

Hey, there, Fire Walk With Me, I really am on your side truedelphi Apr 2012 #49

Sorry, it's not personal, that's all "burn" against the issues. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #50

Any Dem-focused group is adding to the problem...You cannot fix the corrupt system by voting for it! this is serious Apr 2012 #63

Who are "OWS Pittsburgh 99%" are they like the Democrat Party? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #33

My Terminology, U Mc Mike Apr 2012 #34

They are called Occupy Pittsburgh FYI U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #36

I don't really understand you, Eu. Mc Mike Apr 2012 #39

This isn't about you. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #46

I hope post 40 will do as an apology Mc Mike Apr 2012 #48

I for one don't want an alliance. Chan790 Apr 2012 #38

+ My household. n/t truedelphi Apr 2012 #43

I agree with this. No Alliances, No compromises. this is serious Apr 2012 #51

Since this is your first post you may wish to read the terms of service TBF Apr 2012 #55

Oops. Sorry about that. I edited it. this is serious Apr 2012 #56

No prob - TBF Apr 2012 #57

Yeah, don't take cues from me. Chan790 Apr 2012 #64

The TOS sounds soooooo "99% Spring" U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #71

Excellent post, and expresses how more and more people feel. I admit to having been sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #69

So where do those of us who are involved in partisan politics go? hack89 May 2012 #80

99% Spring is A HUGE fraud. They are front groups for the Obama Campaign this is serious Apr 2012 #53

Why is re-electing Democrats a problem? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #54

They are trying to Co-Opt the Occupy movement and turn it into the Dems version of a tea party. this is serious Apr 2012 #58

I'd ignore them if I were you - TBF Apr 2012 #59

I gotcha. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #60

So? The Tea Party moved Repubs further to the right eridani Apr 2012 #62

The point is that they are NOT OCCUPY. They don't even focus on the consensus decision process. this is serious Apr 2012 #65

There is no faster way to spread ideas than by having them stolen eridani Apr 2012 #66

Those groups are just using the symbols of OWS to get followers and then they will turn political. this is serious Apr 2012 #67

Nonsense. At least in my area eridani Apr 2012 #68

When there's a conflict between the Occupy & the Dems, I wonder which side they will choose? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #70

Both the Democratic Party and OWS are very large and diverse groups eridani Apr 2012 #72

Notice you didn't answer the question. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #73

Plenty of local Dem activists hate the NDAA as much as anyone in Occupy eridani Apr 2012 #74

In my months with Occupy I have talked with Socialists, Anarchists, Libertarians, and Progressives U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #75

Holding power is bad? eridani Apr 2012 #76

The system is corrupt and power is held by those who cater to the 1% U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #77

Of course Occupy is not about electing candidates eridani Apr 2012 #78

How is moveon trying to co-opt Occupy? That doesnt make the least bit of sense. rhett o rick May 2012 #82

Yeah, that's such a good question. truedelphi Apr 2012 #79

Help me out. I am a great advocate of change. The change the candidate Obama promised rhett o rick Apr 2015 #84

At least they have a mechanism for affecting real change hack89 May 2012 #81

Agreeing with the OP. snot May 2012 #83

"didn't have the knees or ears" Oh NOOOOES LiberalElite Apr 2015 #85