Occupy Underground
In reply to the discussion: Opening up Discussion on Hosting Guidelines [View all]Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 24, 2012, 06:47 AM - Edit history (2)
New people (incredibly valuable, skilled, wonderful people who we wouldn't dream of doing without) get involved and vote to start over from scratch on whatever was put in place by the people who just left because "those people aren't here, we are".
If Occupy is being inclusive, shouldn't folks seek to be inclusive of what the du2 folks put forward, since the foilks there wouldn't have agreed to participate and make it happen otherwise?
Ohio Joe's concerns about this were particularly strong in the opposite direction from folks who are saying "no consensus, no hosts, allow everyone on DU to vote on anything having to do with the group".
My understanding of Occupy's approach to the 99% is that Occupy seeks to involve anyone in the 99% who wishes to participate in a shared effort. But those goals have to be shared by the folks who get involved, which requires using consensus where participation (i.e. some agreement on underlying structure) is required to be part of decisions coming out of the GA. (the nonprofit mentioned had to deal with these issues on a legal level -- it's hard to be open to everyone and use simple majority vote.) To use business terminology, you become ripe for hostile takeover, like what's happened to the Party over the past 20 years.
I have reposted the du2 draft and ellisonz's most recent edit suggestions in a Mic Check thread in this forum, at ellisonz's request.