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starroute

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21. So your scenario is that Occupy is completely infiltrated by terrorists?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

Understand -- all indications are of extensive FBI surveillance of Occupy which would generate a considerable amount of paperwork.

But the FBI has only released a tiny number of pages and insists that all the rest has to be kept secret for reasons of national security.

So your "plausible scenario" amounts to saying that only about 5-10% of what Occupy Oakland was doing actually involved carrying out the public agenda of of the group as expressed on websites, on Facebook, in interviews, etc. And the other 90-95% was the doing of "groups (other than Occupy) whose intentions might be less than peaceful and not remotely in the best interests of the citizenry at large."

So where are these "groups (other than Occupy)"? Can you name them? Point to any evidence of their activities? Suggest what agenda they might have in taking over the Occupy movement and how they did it with nobody noticing, including the Occupiers themselves? Explain why the FBI hasn't been hitting protesters with terrorism charges instead of the usual crap like obstructing traffic?

I'd say you've got a long way to go to make this one not stink like something three days dead.

Have you seen the documents in question? Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #1
And of course without anyone ever being able to see the documents... Raster Sep 2012 #2
Or, on the other hand Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #4
How condescending. Perhaps the FBI should let someone else make that determination.... Raster Sep 2012 #6
You scoff at the idea Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #7
And isn't that a conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient excuse for the Govt. Downright Orwellian. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #3
And isn't that a Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #5
You do realize what a ridiculous line of attack this is, don't you? starroute Sep 2012 #8
Apparently you have seen the documents Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #9
You would have made a great Soviet citizen, Comrade Summer! We should never *dare* question a police villager Sep 2012 #10
I never advocated not questioning Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #11
It's not about assuming the documents are untoward starroute Sep 2012 #12
"It's that it's blatantly obvious the FBI is lying." Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #13
So your scenario is that Occupy is completely infiltrated by terrorists? starroute Sep 2012 #21
It is infiltrated by terrorists tama Sep 2012 #27
It is exactly this kind of logic Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #29
Some people would be enraged that a US agency would negate the FOIA. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #19
Except we can't really question them unless we have access to the information on what they're villager Sep 2012 #14
So transparency in a democracy Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #15
You're just killing me here. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #20
+1 villager Sep 2012 #26
You are calling the ACLU liars and ignoring the FBI's unConstitutional raids upon protester's homes Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #18
Not arguing against the movement at all. Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #22
Thank you for your concerns, and good bye. I'll be spending my time and energy Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #23
I sincerely hope you do. n/t Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #24
Have you tama Sep 2012 #28
Do yourself a favor and put that one on ignore. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #31
Wouldn't happen to have any links Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #32
Let me know when Summer is over antiquie Sep 2012 #16
That they have to come to a sub-forum and attack only reveals them for what they are. Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #17
Occupy homes antiquie Sep 2012 #25
No no, no problem, no apologies needed :) Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #30
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