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In reply to the discussion: "OWS - Where have they gone?" [View all]reusrename
(1,716 posts)It could be very instructive to look into what your saying a little closer. I'm not saying you're wrong about any of this, only that science is proving certain things to be real.
I sort of understand this "horizontal leadership" concept and science is showing that it's only a concept. It does not exist in real-life social structures among real people, specifically social networks among what the literature refers to as insurgents.
This ties deeply into the whole concept of what leadership actually is. Especially the leadership of political movements.
Scientific analysis is proving that the most critical persons in a political movement are generally not the ones who are the most visible or the most vocal. This is what I've been able to find out from trying to read up on this stuff. The subject matter is difficult enough, and then add to it the secrecy imposed by the surveillance state, and it becomes pretty murky pretty quickly into it.
To me, a good,well documented, example of a successful political movement might be the Obama campaign in 2008.
That upward turn for Obama during the primaries, that looks like a movement to me. He captured the Edwards and Gore supporters (they dropped out) almost completely. Who should get most of the credit? The science is showing that whoever came up with the branding is probably among the most influential people involved.
I believe OWS were victims of this new technology. I believe the metadata is the greater danger to liberty and freedom.