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MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. How nice of you. I pay for my medical -- it's not expensive as I am a military retiree.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 09:35 AM
Aug 2013

Were I not, as a MA resident, I could get affordable insurance. Were I broke, the state foots the bill.

My entire state is a "nearly free clinic" for the poor. It doesn't rely on volunteers who could die, move, or decide they don't want to volunteer anymore, either. The "urgent care clinic" is something below the level of an emergency room, that does walk in service around the clock, and they're popping up everywhere, so it's not like people have no choice but a family doc or the ER, anymore. And if you need hospital care, you get it.

Example: I know someone who was unemployed, whose unemployment insurance had run out, who had a massive stroke. Commonwealth Care paid for top notch hospital care, a month in the best rehab facility in the state (the one Teresa Hines just came out of, in fact) and follow on care and a visiting nurse. No charge. He got a brace for his leg made, also free. He's now on disability and managing to keep his head above water. He sees a doc regularly -- that's free--and he does pay for his prescriptions, about 12 bucks a month for four prescriptions, and he gets free test strips and needles for his diabetes.

Your example is not typical, you know. One swallow does not a summer make. The energy OWS generated did not produce the expected fallout and the Great Big Change that was promised--that is the point I am making and I believe it is a valid one. A few people in a bus volunteering to give free medical care is nice, but it's just one place. And it's not original by a long shot--when I was a university student without medical insurance, I went to a "free clinic" too, in a basement of a "bad neighborhood" tenement--and that was many, many decades ago. A crew of people preventing the sheriff from foreclosing on people here or there is nice, but it's a band aid on a gaping wound. It's not the "Wall Street Accountability" that was advertised.

The OWS people spent too much time yelling at the wrong people about unimportant stuff. Instead of demanding their right to camp out in winter, they should have used those millions people sent in to rent a cheap place and run their operation out of it. They ignored the big issues and spent too much time hollering about their right to pitch tents in parks, while those "banksters" laughed all the way to the bank, because their opponents were so easily distracted.

And then it just....melted away.

"OWS - Where have they gone?" [View all] Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 OP
I support what you are doing but not how. Too many issues that are symptoms, go after the root Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #1
1000% right Dustlawyer sorefeet Aug 2013 #3
Campaign corruption is just one more symptom starroute Aug 2013 #4
I don't think that publicly funded elections would be ineffectual, I think it would be Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #18
I agree it could be more likely to happen, but not that it would do any good starroute Aug 2013 #20
The government can restrict the 1st amendment if it can show a compelling governmental interest. Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #21
I don't think election reform is the number one issue. Blanks Aug 2013 #57
kick /nt Dragonfli Aug 2013 #2
Kicked and Recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #5
This is true but... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #6
Our agenda is very clear; the issues are myriad, perhaps legion Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #9
Sorry, I disagree Phillyindy Aug 2013 #12
You have to remember OWS is an emergent, a paradigm shift away from greed and selfishness. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #13
Sounds like... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #15
Sorry, waxing philosopic there. My main interest is spirituality so that sometimes bleeds Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #16
Many people wrote off OWS once it became apparent Maedhros Aug 2013 #26
To an extent... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #28
Agreed. Maedhros Aug 2013 #30
And please never forget that "democratic" and "progressive" mayors are among the worst offenders Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #32
Yes - both sides of the political divide cooperated Maedhros Aug 2013 #55
The Buckminster Fuller quote: yes (n/t) bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #35
There's a lot of truthiness in your post, and I don't mean it in a derogatory way. reusrename Aug 2013 #27
Civil rights, worker rights, and environmental law movements have all failed bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #36
Is this a joke? Phillyindy Aug 2013 #43
The agenda was NOT clear and that is because there was no leadership. MADem Aug 2013 #31
"Responsibility and authority" would have turned OWS into ...what? bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #37
When you have leaders who take responsibility and have the authority to act for the benefit of the MADem Aug 2013 #40
AMEN. (Nt) Phillyindy Aug 2013 #44
Oh - And what's with the contempt for the homeless and hungry? bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #38
What "contempt?" MADem Aug 2013 #41
Many here... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #42
Thank you. I wanted them to succeed, but it was not to be. MADem Aug 2013 #47
Pretty much. (Nt) Phillyindy Aug 2013 #48
The "programs" for the homeless have left them under the bridge too bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #45
Way to miss my point....again! MADem Aug 2013 #46
My local Occupy runs a weekly free medical clinic each Sunday here, open to all, even to you! Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #49
Those things are... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #51
Here is what I responded to, all about how Occupy should do what they are doing here: Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #52
How nice of you. I pay for my medical -- it's not expensive as I am a military retiree. MADem Aug 2013 #54
It's almost like.. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #50
That poster said 'they should start their own programs' then you attacked them for doing so. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #53
I answered your question, FWIW. MADem Aug 2013 #56
k and r niyad Aug 2013 #7
K & R, Period. TheJames Aug 2013 #8
K&R! nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #10
K&R Saviolo Aug 2013 #11
Everybody branched out into various activities. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #14
DURec!! bvar22 Aug 2013 #17
Second that, bvar22 (n/t) bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #39
To every thing, there is a season Demeter Aug 2013 #19
Big K&R! nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #22
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #23
Thank you for all your efforts. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #24
The only quibble I have is where the ACLU says debt is their business model. reusrename Aug 2013 #25
We Need More 99 Percent People To Get What's Going On And Engage. colsohlibgal Aug 2013 #29
Wow. What a beautiful post. woo me with science Aug 2013 #33
OWS was a temporary autonomous response to worsening corporate stupidity,. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #34
There are people upthread who are missing a few things... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #58
Occupy Lives warrprayer Aug 2013 #59
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