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Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
18. I'm a spiritual person
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

Love & Tolerate!



The faith-based people in our Occupy are on the radical end of the spectrum. Of course, for those who are both mainstream progressives and skeptics, and for the "Seth McFarlane" wing, that isn't much of a vote of confidence.

One of the things that's nice about the central messaging that Anons and Adbusters adopted early on was the "do not divide the movement" principle in an effort to get beyond divisive social issues. Hopefully that extends to not making said social issues the center of focus.

Eccentric art projects should be undertaken in service of the movement but I don't think we need be countercultural for its own sake.

BTW this was something Thomas Frank advocated early on in The Baffler in how to start a radical populist movement, even before he wrote What's The Matter With Kansas. There's another guy who focused on the overclass meme as well, a guy who used to be an (ex-) Republican strategist. He wrote a book on the unification of the American overclass. I forget his name.

WooHoo Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #1
Spot on. nt snagglepuss Mar 2012 #2
I second your analysis Lifelong Protester Mar 2012 #3
I wish I was there. roguevalley Mar 2012 #7
OK, but how is "spirituality" a strategy... and whose "spirituality", if it even exists? nt Joseph8th Mar 2012 #13
Now more than ever, we need the Jedi. Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #4
mayday. perfect yodermon Mar 2012 #5
This is the sort of language that fueled the Abolitionist Movement. ellisonz Mar 2012 #6
. donheld Mar 2012 #8
I like it. glinda Mar 2012 #16
Well I hope it works. zeemike Mar 2012 #9
Unwillingness to go to jail?? starroute Mar 2012 #10
But that is not what I mean zeemike Mar 2012 #11
It may well come to that starroute Mar 2012 #17
Well, I think you are wrong regarding the occupiers not being willing to go to jail. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #19
Well I am sure I am wrong about a lot of things. zeemike Mar 2012 #21
No, I think that is a very good idea, to have waves of people ready to take the place sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #22
No problem zeemike Mar 2012 #24
It's what the Wobblies did -- and that should never go out of fashion starroute Mar 2012 #23
I was not aware of that little piece of history zeemike Mar 2012 #25
One question: what does "spiritual insurrection" even mean? Joseph8th Mar 2012 #12
It means to remove one's soul from the dominant paradigmatic... ellisonz Mar 2012 #14
Spirituality means consciousness, awareness of a higher, saner way of being in the world. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #15
I'm a spiritual person Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #18
I take it to mean an indictment of existing society as spiritually hollow starroute Mar 2012 #20
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