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NNadir

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17. How many people have been killed by radiation releases resulting from earhquakes?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:56 AM
Apr 2024

The data exists of course. Lots of coal and gas has been burned to power computers to whine endlessly about it, the big boogeyman at Fukushima.

I have the numbers. I can produce them at will whenever I'm at my home computer, with reference to the primary scientific literature.

Numbers don't lie. People lie to themselves and to each other, but numbers don't. I would submit that the failure to face the numbers is the real reason that so much of the planet is in flames.

We could, of course ban electricity as "too dangerous." The solar industry is not sustainable because since ancient times it's been known that the sun goes down every day. Of course sun worship is about as old.

Reliability has an economic, thermodyamic, and thus environmental cost. The reason that major fires are breaking out all over the world, California being just one instance, is not that engineers are incompetent in the minds of people who know little about engineering but deign to sit in judgement of its practitioners.

My son is already a highly trained engineer and as his father he has worked to make me aware of the challenges. All engineering is an exercise in combinatorial optimization, irrespective of catcalls from the peanut galleries. Energy cannot be, by its very nature risk free. It can only be risk minimized. That's what engineers do, including those at PSGE, some of whom are surely excellent honorable people I am sure, who work extremely hard under difficult conditions to keep the lights on.

I refer to Theodore Roosevelt's famous lecture at the Sorbonne: "It's not the critic who counts..."

If we demonize the nuclear industry and praise in reactionary rhetoric the ancient mystical nonsense of thinking the sun God will save our asses, our legacy will be what we are already seeing, a planet in flames.

The solar industry is not sustainable. It depends on access to fossil fuels, and they, not nuclear are responsible for the disaster of climate change.

History will not forgive us nor should it.


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Yes, it is. I can see that title between the threads on water bears and the South Korean fusion reactor. highplainsdem Apr 2024 #1
That's even stranger. I just went to the Science forum, and I can't see it, nor could I see it on my cell phone. NNadir Apr 2024 #3
I think I know what's going on here and it does represent, I think, a software bug. NNadir Apr 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author NNadir Apr 2024 #5
I also see your post from Tuesday. nt TexasTowelie Apr 2024 #2
Thanks. See Post #4. NNadir Apr 2024 #6
It's on your end. Appears for me Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #7
See Post #4 in this thread. NNadir Apr 2024 #8
Unlikely to be a "software bug". Log back in. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #9
It is. I did and the title disappeared again. It's linked to the ignored correspondent. NNadir Apr 2024 #10
Might "death toll'' be in your trash by keyword list? That would make your post invisible to you Donkees Apr 2024 #11
I see it just fine. usonian Apr 2024 #12
Nature Journals, I don't think, worry about wide "visibility." NNadir Apr 2024 #13
I'm planning to reinvent the internet at age 75. usonian Apr 2024 #14
The PSGE generated fires were caused by rigging California with a vast number of wires to connect so called... NNadir Apr 2024 #15
I'll disagree to the extent that a lot of lines are/were lifelines. usonian Apr 2024 #16
How many people have been killed by radiation releases resulting from earhquakes? NNadir Apr 2024 #17
When I checked my "hide threads" option after a long time, I noticed there were a few - and they were mine Rhiannon12866 Apr 2024 #18
That was it!!! Thanks. I have never knowingly hid a thread, and so I was unaware of the option. NNadir Apr 2024 #19
LOL! Apparently it isn't hard to do accidentally since when I checked I had 3 or 4 hidden, all of them my own! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2024 #20
I have a lot of trouble when i post using a cell phone. NNadir Apr 2024 #21
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