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highplainsdem

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39. I'm sorry. I hadn't realized it had become that nightmarish a situation for you, Skinner and the mods.
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 12:52 PM
Sep 2024

I'd never heard of a moderating situation as bad as this:

Hundreds of alerts were sent every day, and every single one had to be discussed by a team of moderators who needed reach a consensus on each decision. A vast number of posts were deleted every day. Threads were locked constantly because too much fighting was taking place in the replies. As you note, we even had a moderator function that would delete entire sub-threads in one click. We had some members who would get fifty posts deleted in a week, let alone five in 90 days.


I'd've probably banned members getting anywhere near that number of posts deleted in a week, after giving them a warning first. And I was used to mods being able to act without needing to discuss something with others, to hide or lock or edit posts (the posts always showing the editing info), or sometimes move them to another forum if posted in the wrong forum (not possible here with different numbering systems in each forum, though it would be really helpful for posts locked in LBN), etc. Any discussions in the mod forum were usually about really serious matters such as whether a member might have to be banned, though I'd make unilateral decisions as admin in the most egregious, urgent cases. And there was no separate MIRT, but any newcomers who were obvious trolls were booted immediately (by me when I was the admin) as soon as we became aware of them. There could also be discussions in the moderators forum over a member being unhappy with a moderating decision, though that didn't happen often.

Anyway, I would have found it impossible to cope with the situation you described, too.

I didn't reply to your message right away last night because I was trying to think of a way to combine the advantages of both juries and moderators, but I couldn't think of any.

And none of us want you to suffer burnout.

Again, I'm sorry.

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Usually gets covered under the 'RW memes' or Conspiracy theories types alerts... hlthe2b Jul 2024 #1
Wishful thinking, not right wing memes nor conspiracy theories CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #19
That's a good point, a "mis/dis-information" alert definition. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #2
Many alert categories are fairly subjective so it would be no different. nt Maru Kitteh Jul 2024 #4
Agreed, especially since one prolific newcomer seems intent on spreading disinformation Maru Kitteh Jul 2024 #3
can certainly understand your thrust stopdiggin Jul 2024 #5
See my suggestion, reply#13 consider_this Jul 2024 #15
I agree. Please. It's getting out of hand and it's not a good look for us. ms liberty Jul 2024 #6
I think maybe that was the point Skittles Sep 2024 #45
That's tricky birdographer Jul 2024 #7
See my suggestion, reply#13 consider_this Jul 2024 #16
The most important thing to do is post the facts in a response. That gets noticed quickly if enough people say, Silent Type Jul 2024 #8
Usually, that would work, but in one specific case... TwilightZone Jul 2024 #9
Well, yeah, that would tick me off too. Silent Type Jul 2024 #10
We seem to have lots of folks willing to rec anything that makes them feel good. CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #20
It'd be difficult because who's providing the "truth"? The jury is not be able to do research. live love laugh Jul 2024 #11
I agree with others who say it's probably not logistically possible, but I get your sentiment. orange jar Jul 2024 #12
This idea might work... consider_this Jul 2024 #13
"If a post could be alerted for false info, an area is provided to state why or link to proof" progree Jul 2024 #17
Entirely agree dpibel Sep 2024 #24
there r a couple rules that dont trigger a ffr. like copyright or wrong forum. mopinko Jul 2024 #14
It would be a nice, and needed (imo), feature. demmiblue Aug 2024 #18
at least some indication that it matters, at all PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #21
Still needs to be addressed, for all the reasons stated. I am quite distressed at the number of times ... Hekate Sep 2024 #22
It's a difficult problem to deal with in a forum like this one where people are in basic agreement on so highplainsdem Sep 2024 #25
TY, hpd, for a long & thoughtful response. It's going to get more complicated with AI... Hekate Sep 2024 #27
I don't know. There have been bots posting on Twitter, even from verified accounts, exposed at times highplainsdem Sep 2024 #29
Quick response to the question: EarlG Sep 2024 #31
OK. I can see that the jury system can sometimes be faster than moderators quickly responding to highplainsdem Sep 2024 #33
Well, no offense, but ironically there's a lot of misinformation in your post that I need to correct EarlG Sep 2024 #35
No, I didn't contradict myself. highplainsdem Sep 2024 #36
You're correct EarlG Sep 2024 #37
I'm sorry. I hadn't realized it had become that nightmarish a situation for you, Skinner and the mods. highplainsdem Sep 2024 #39
I get a good explanation of the alert on every jury I get called to and there are a lot of alerts lately ... marble falls Sep 2024 #41
Kicking. We still have this problem, y'all. ms liberty Sep 2024 #23
As long as it is demonstrably untrue. Opinions unfortunately are more difficult. And most of politics is opinion. Silent Type Sep 2024 #26
Alternative facts are not a thing at DU -- and that's what we are talking about Hekate Sep 2024 #28
Unfortunately there is not a way to do this, at least not the way you're imagining it EarlG Sep 2024 #30
Re what you said about fact-checking just via replies... highplainsdem Sep 2024 #32
There IS a quick way to deal with misinformation EarlG Sep 2024 #34
Thanks for addressing this, and I see that Rubyshoo's been ppr'd ms liberty Sep 2024 #38
And don't forget: use that alert button as necessary. marble falls Sep 2024 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2024 #40
How about a fact-checking team, Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #43
this makes sense to me Skittles Sep 2024 #44
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