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Showing Original Post only (View all)Former Republican Says No One Who Voted for the Iraq War Should Be President—Including Hillary Clint [View all]
Former Republican Says No One Who Voted for the Iraq War Should Be PresidentIncluding Hillary Clinton
By John Nichols April 10
http://www.thenation.com/blog/203945/ready-hillary-pointed-objection-her-iraq-war-record
Lincoln Chafee just went there, as only Lincoln Chafee could.
The former Republican senator and independent governor of Rhode Island, who is very seriously exploring the prospect of challenging Hillary Clinton for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, said Iraq should be an issue.
Then Chafee got specific. He brought up the votes that he and Clinton cast in 2002, as members of the US Senate, on whether to authorize President Bush and Vice President Cheney to steer the United States toward war with Iraq.
Chafee, then sitting as a Republican, voted with Senators Russ Feingold, Paul Wellstone, and twenty others to block the rush to war.
Clinton, sitting as a Democrat, voted with Senator John McCain and 75 others to give Bush and Cheney their blank check.
Chafee calls that Clintons vote the biggest mistake of many on issues of foreign policy by the presumed frontrunner for the 2016 Democratic nomination.
Then Chafee got specific. He brought up the votes that he and Clinton cast in 2002, as members of the US Senate, on whether to authorize President Bush and Vice President Cheney to steer the United States toward war with Iraq.
Chafee, then sitting as a Republican, voted with Senators Russ Feingold, Paul Wellstone, and twenty others to block the rush to war.
Clinton, sitting as a Democrat, voted with Senator John McCain and 75 others to give Bush and Cheney their blank check.
Chafee calls that Clintons vote the biggest mistake of many on issues of foreign policy by the presumed frontrunner for the 2016 Democratic nomination.
But even those who support Clinton should recognize the lesson of 2008: Inevitability does not always translate into reality. And Democrats who believe Clinton will be their nominee should recognize something else: She will face questions about her record. Those questions will either come in a spirited primary process, or they will come in a fall race with a Republican. Lincoln Chafee is raising the toughest questions now. That is not merely appropriate, that is practical and necessaryfor Clinton and for the Democratic Party.
I see this as very important from a couple of different aspects. One as John Nichols mentions above, H. Clinton will sooner or later, have to come to terms with her decision in 2002 to join Sen McCain and other war hawks to give George Bush and Richard Cheney a blank check to destroy the country and people of Iraq for some reason yet to be explained. Those that capitulated to the Republicons and shrugged their duties to balance power and hold the Republicons back from waging a very costly war, must share the responsibility.
I think some are in denial about just how terrible this decision was and how horrible the consequences were.
The second reason I think this article is important is that it points out how the Democratic Party is shifting to the Right. With people like Arlen Specter and Lincoln Chafee, switching parties, it shows that they think their ideologies fit with the New Democrats, the Third Way Wing of the Party. It's a win-win for our corporate masters.
We need a strong two party system to have checks and balances. Now we are looking at a Third Way Conservative Democratic Party, with a disenfranchised Progressive Wing vs. the Clown Party.
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Former Republican Says No One Who Voted for the Iraq War Should Be President—Including Hillary Clint [View all]
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
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I cannot imagine a single member of the military or their loved ones voting for her after she said
merrily
Apr 2015
#47
We need a vibrant two party system. With the conservatives moving into our party
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#12
It's too simplistic to label Chafee a conservative just because he grew up as a Republican.
Jim Lane
Apr 2015
#14
I agree I should be careful generalizing, but I doubt Chaffee is a liberal.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#18
His record poses an issue also raised by Hillary's: the politician who has changed over time.
Jim Lane
Apr 2015
#19
Members of other groups don't have to keep defending the OPs they post in their group.
merrily
Apr 2015
#26
"A discrepancy between Senate votes and current positions is also an issue for Clinton."
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#36
Bullshit. It's a matter of qualifications. She doesn't have them. Neither do many. The problem is
whereisjustice
Apr 2015
#8
How is holding her accountable for her part in the decision to start a war
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#11
Eventually these groups are going to be forced to block the Hillary worshippers. They want us banned
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#15
What I find interesting is that it's obvious that the Democratic Party has a ever widening
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#16
Yeah and the reframing of Hillary being the liberal progressive populist is making me sick.
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#17
Some believe if one is progressive on one or two issues, then they are progressive.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#20
Wow, Chafee said that? Good for him, I could not agree more. Anyone with such bad judgement
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#21
Yet, she said she would not have gone to war if she had been President in 2002.
merrily
Apr 2015
#48
I remember when Chafee voted against that awful war authorization. He was brutally attacked by his
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#22
Please remember, the DLC endorsed that war and the founder of the Progressive Policy Institute, who
merrily
Apr 2015
#49
Now why would you want to know that? I will answer if you tell me how you forgive those
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#24
We knew Bush was lying, why didn't Hillary? She is asking for the job of POTUS.
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#50
True, sick to death of that kind of 'dialogue' which hopefully won't be allowed in this forum where
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#60
I replied at least twice. Take your Hillary campaigning to GD or the Hillary Group.
merrily
Apr 2015
#41
Now that you've checked his record, what is your opinion as to whether he is a populist? nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#55