Democratic Primaries

jcgoldie

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77. I live in the midwest and belong to a union and so do both of my brothers

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:11 PM

Sep 2019

Show some statistics to support that union members are responsible for what you say. Unions are not as stupid as you think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Why is Biden in the lead? [View all] Sparkly Sep 2019 OP

I trust his values and he is the best at restoring our relationship with allies. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #1

Any reason not to trust the others Sparkly Sep 2019 #7

Because more people like him than like the others? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #2

Kinda tautological, but I like him, too. Sparkly Sep 2019 #12

But if most people like him they'll vote for him and he'll win. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #25

Because "liking" isn't enough. Sparkly Sep 2019 #69

Compared to Trump? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #80

Since you're so worried about what the scary RNC might John Fante Sep 2019 #88

And it will be ANYBODY BUT WARREN TOO...The difference is Joe has ties to and can win the moderate Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #152

Biden's broken record moment BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #3

Just like after every debate NYMinute Sep 2019 #9

It's a transcript, not a knife BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #13

Transcript spun with bad editorializing nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #18

Yep. awesomerwb1 Sep 2019 #29

So you like that answer on its own? BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #32

Right... Sparkly Sep 2019 #20

The Iraq answer was almost as bad BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #26

cf ewarren crazytown Sep 2019 #21

And lost in that word salad is a tired 80s-era respectability policy as well. Embarrassing. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #22

Was it you touting the Great Julin Castro? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #40

Yeah, that was sarcasm BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #48

Yikes. nt Tipperary Sep 2019 #67

Biden has empathy ... like Obama and Clinton before him NYMinute Sep 2019 #4

yep. read any cognitive science and you will learn that this is what people vote on. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #8

I agree PatSeg Sep 2019 #75

Beto just gave a great answer to Chris Matthews EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #10

Julian did a self-immolation tonight nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #17

I believe he drops out soon. Yang will hang around as a side-show. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #55

Yes, And agree about Beto, emmaverybo Sep 2019 #39

Some people think he has empathy... OrwellwasRight Sep 2019 #102

BS supporters never see the good in other candidates nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #106

Hmmm, that's not judgmental at all. OrwellwasRight Sep 2019 #107

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the party has available Gothmog Sep 2019 #109

Yep ... nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #110

pushing us into war with iraq was far from the right thing questionseverything Sep 2019 #153

oh brother .. not this again NYMinute Sep 2019 #154

GOP will have a very hard time smearing him as "socialist" - takes a big weapon away from GOP. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #5

There are other candidates who can claim that Sparkly Sep 2019 #24

Yes, but, unfortunately, they all poll so poorly (ATM) with my fellow PoC, who are the kingmakers Celerity Sep 2019 #53

Hence my question. Sparkly Sep 2019 #59

Obama, 90% of it is his link to President Obama Celerity Sep 2019 #82

I must be in another universe. Sparkly Sep 2019 #91

The number one overarching issue is defeating Rump in the general. Until Biden looses that mantle Celerity Sep 2019 #99

ITA True_Blue Sep 2019 #157

That won't stop them. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #30

It won't work with Joe. Bernie wears the moniker unabashedly. redstateblues Sep 2019 #86

Lolololol JonAndKatePlusABird Sep 2019 #113

I trust Biden to build the greatest cabinet and executive team EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #6

Above all others? Why? Sparkly Sep 2019 #33

EveHammond13 likes him bigtree Sep 2019 #11

well, I'm sorry your candidate is not doing well but that is not my fault. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #16

I work retail bigtree Sep 2019 #34

She did very well in the debate. Tipperary Sep 2019 #76

Name recognition mysteryowl Sep 2019 #14

Bingo Quixote1818 Sep 2019 #28

Ha! mysteryowl Sep 2019 #68

Sanders has same level name recognition JI7 Sep 2019 #101

Not at all. I'm willing to bet that there are many voters who can't name their own senators Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #132

he ran for president in 2016 , that's how he got higher name recognition JI7 Sep 2019 #134

Sanders' name recognition is nearly 100%. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #136

They think he will get the job done. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #15

Why do they think that?? Sparkly Sep 2019 #37

Most of them probably don't watch the debates. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #79

Probably most polled have not seen the debates. And that worries me. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #141

Trust . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #19

I will vote for any Democrat saljr1 Sep 2019 #23

I'm just living in reality... Sparkly Sep 2019 #38

He's got a message. They just got "plans." For instance, he has framed this election in its emmaverybo Sep 2019 #51

People look at Trump and see a 70 year old who is obviously evil and demented. world wide wally Sep 2019 #27

+100 Duppers Sep 2019 #98

Because we have had enough of a president who is going to 'shake things up'? GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #31

Have you noticed Sparkly Sep 2019 #41

No. I have not. Is he Obama? Of course not. But who is? GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #47

Is he equal to ANY of the other candidates on the stage?!? Sparkly Sep 2019 #52

IMO, it is the IDEA of Biden, VP to Obama, that gives people a sense of comfort Blaukraut Sep 2019 #35

I agree, policy-wise. Sparkly Sep 2019 #43

I don't know, but I expected more sharpness. I'll give him a couple more debates. Blaukraut Sep 2019 #63

There were a lot of better options on that stage tonight IMO BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #46

This. Tipperary Sep 2019 #72

Warren needs to prove she can win the rust belt back. As it is, she is tied with Trump redstateblues Sep 2019 #95

When in doubt, brandish a meaningless poll BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #97

Warren polls pretty well against Trump in rust belt. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #137

Most job-specific qualified, experienced, and knowledgeable in the field. Also one of America's emmaverybo Sep 2019 #36

Reasons for him to be a good president. Sparkly Sep 2019 #50

I thought we should pick the guy who will make the best prez, and the guy who will is ahead in the emmaverybo Sep 2019 #65

Former union members in the mid west don't want to hear from "pointy headed applegrove Sep 2019 #42

Nonsense jcgoldie Sep 2019 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #66

In the mid west obama voters did vote for Trump in numbers big enough to give them applegrove Sep 2019 #73

I live in the midwest and belong to a union and so do both of my brothers jcgoldie Sep 2019 #77

Former union members. People who feel financial anxiety because they lost good jobs. applegrove Sep 2019 #84

Pure speculation ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #90

Was a book that went into regression analysis about how people in financial anxiety applegrove Sep 2019 #96

Uhm jcgoldie Sep 2019 #116

Yep! Thanks for coming back to this convo ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #118

The obama then trump voters were former union people from the midwest. applegrove Sep 2019 #122

Looks to me like the union memeber from the midwest wanted some facts about your claim ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #147

Read the book i reccommend. applegrove Sep 2019 #148

Please YOU made the claim here on DU ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #149

Read all the way down. There were 6 million of the type who are up for grabs. applegrove Sep 2019 #150

Here is some background. Anyone can be fooled. People default to thinking applegrove Sep 2019 #151

You should consider self-deleting BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #61

I should have put it in applegrove Sep 2019 #92

Obama is an intellectual. Sparkly Sep 2019 #62

Obama was cool. And careful. I'm not saying it is right to vote that way. applegrove Sep 2019 #87

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #44

Well, finally someone said it. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #54

But he isn't the only one in that category, if that's your flavor. Sparkly Sep 2019 #64

Even Biden's plans will be DOA in the Senate. So talk - no matter who does it - is cheap. Blaukraut Sep 2019 #70

Biden won't push to end the filibuster BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #83

Truth! n/t Blaukraut Sep 2019 #85

I'm right there with you. Bleacher Creature Sep 2019 #45

because he is perceived as the best bet to beat the orange bloat and we need to beat Rump nt Celerity Sep 2019 #49

Why do you knock out Bernie? HelpImSurrounded Sep 2019 #57

I think people also know what Joe is like and how he would govern because he was VP. napi21 Sep 2019 #58

Nevertheless, as a candidate Sparkly Sep 2019 #60

He makes sense. A few wording glitches now and then. Warren pontificates like she's in a lecture emmaverybo Sep 2019 #71

And you think that will get by Trump? Sparkly Sep 2019 #78

You don't seem to want answers, just opportunities to tear other DU'ers down emulatorloo Sep 2019 #74

I am honestly trying to understand why Sparkly Sep 2019 #81

I think Biden in spite of his gaffes comes across as a decent, caring person katmondoo Sep 2019 #89

But so do many others, no? Sparkly Sep 2019 #93

Yes, very humble as well - that plays well in a Trump fatigue era Alhena Sep 2019 #94

Likeable. Experienced. Dignified. Honest. Working class. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #100

Sour grapes OP? nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #103

Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery Gothmog Sep 2019 #104

Experience, genuine personality, Obama Bradical79 Sep 2019 #105

Biden is by far WON the healthcare debate tonight AlexSFCA Sep 2019 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #111

Noun, Verb, Obama. n/t MarcA Sep 2019 #112

That is cruelly good BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #115

Biden has actually been one step away from the Presidency. forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #114

I wasn't a fan of Hillary until her term as SoS. RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #117

Name recognition and Barack Obama. Pre-Obama, Biden was not considered pres. material. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #119

You misunderstand how valuable name recognition is. Everyone knows him, and he didn't shit the bed NCLefty Sep 2019 #120

Watching tonight, I saw something I hadn't noticed before ... charisma. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #121

Sanders supporter in 2016, but the Dem party wanted Clinton cliffside Sep 2019 #123

Biden hooked me with his opening ad featuring Charlottesville. He really gets it. ... Hekate Sep 2019 #124

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #125

Doesn't he though. Starts off with a preamble bashing Biden, "and telling us how bad he is", then still_one Sep 2019 #127

Beto would be leading if he had more experience . JI7 Sep 2019 #126

On what basis do you make that speculation? If you subscribe to that, then aren't you implying that still_one Sep 2019 #129

no, Biden has more experience so i can see why people would support him over Beto JI7 Sep 2019 #130

Of course we all have our opinions, I just think it is way too early in the primary still_one Sep 2019 #131

Biden would be 82 at the end of his first term Martin Eden Sep 2019 #128

Count me in as ageist also. I want a strong 2 term candidate and neither Biden or Sanders are it. seaglass Sep 2019 #133

+1 Martin Eden Sep 2019 #144

Let him serve for one term. IluvPitties Sep 2019 #145

"Radios and record players" TwilightZone Sep 2019 #135

They are only irrelevant... jcgoldie Sep 2019 #138

The pendulum swings... BlueIdaho Sep 2019 #139

He has substantial African-American support customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #140

Who cares why he's in the lead? coeur_de_lion Sep 2019 #142

He is currently polling in the high 40s in SC SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #143

I think DUers are where the country will be - if and when they pay attention. bloom Sep 2019 #146

Biden is not in the lead but just the favorite of those polled. elocs Sep 2019 #155

"Debates should matter..." Um, no. PAMod Sep 2019 #156