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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Why is Biden in the lead? [View all]Gothmog
(155,544 posts)104. Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery
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Biden shows reverence for the most popular Democrat around, former president Barack Obama; others find fault in everything from the Affordable Care Act to immigration policy. Biden does not bombard voters with a torrent of multi-part plans; he gives them a few basic positions and defends them. Biden does not campaign from the neck up; he campaigns with his heart on his sleeve. Biden is deeply optimistic; his opponents think Americans are the problem, not Trump. (I dont suggest that his opponents are wrong, merely that their stance apparently isnt as popular as they thought.) Biden wants normalcy plus reform; his opponents want a peaceful revolution. Biden knows people want to be heard and seen; his opponents (with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris) dont fully grasp this. They want to help," to pepper people with ideas and a to-do list, while Biden takes the time to listen to them. (Think of the well-meaning friend who has a thousand suggestions when you are grieving and youd rather they just shut up and commiserate.)
This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They dont necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence even one they agree with on substance.
Part of the mystery of Bidens appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, Why arent you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?, the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Why blow up Obamacare, and why dont you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option? Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer peoples health care or subsidize their college debt?
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They dont necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence even one they agree with on substance.
Part of the mystery of Bidens appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, Why arent you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?, the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Why blow up Obamacare, and why dont you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option? Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer peoples health care or subsidize their college debt?
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I trust his values and he is the best at restoring our relationship with allies.
EveHammond13
Sep 2019
#1
And it will be ANYBODY BUT WARREN TOO...The difference is Joe has ties to and can win the moderate
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#152
And lost in that word salad is a tired 80s-era respectability policy as well. Embarrassing.
WhiskeyGrinder
Sep 2019
#22
yep. read any cognitive science and you will learn that this is what people vote on.
EveHammond13
Sep 2019
#8
GOP will have a very hard time smearing him as "socialist" - takes a big weapon away from GOP.
EveHammond13
Sep 2019
#5
Yes, but, unfortunately, they all poll so poorly (ATM) with my fellow PoC, who are the kingmakers
Celerity
Sep 2019
#53
The number one overarching issue is defeating Rump in the general. Until Biden looses that mantle
Celerity
Sep 2019
#99
well, I'm sorry your candidate is not doing well but that is not my fault.
EveHammond13
Sep 2019
#16
Not at all. I'm willing to bet that there are many voters who can't name their own senators
Rhiannon12866
Sep 2019
#132
He's got a message. They just got "plans." For instance, he has framed this election in its
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#51
People look at Trump and see a 70 year old who is obviously evil and demented.
world wide wally
Sep 2019
#27
Because we have had enough of a president who is going to 'shake things up'?
GulfCoast66
Sep 2019
#31
IMO, it is the IDEA of Biden, VP to Obama, that gives people a sense of comfort
Blaukraut
Sep 2019
#35
I don't know, but I expected more sharpness. I'll give him a couple more debates.
Blaukraut
Sep 2019
#63
Warren needs to prove she can win the rust belt back. As it is, she is tied with Trump
redstateblues
Sep 2019
#95
Most job-specific qualified, experienced, and knowledgeable in the field. Also one of America's
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#36
I thought we should pick the guy who will make the best prez, and the guy who will is ahead in the
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#65
In the mid west obama voters did vote for Trump in numbers big enough to give them
applegrove
Sep 2019
#73
Former union members. People who feel financial anxiety because they lost good jobs.
applegrove
Sep 2019
#84
Was a book that went into regression analysis about how people in financial anxiety
applegrove
Sep 2019
#96
Looks to me like the union memeber from the midwest wanted some facts about your claim
ChubbyStar
Sep 2019
#147
Read all the way down. There were 6 million of the type who are up for grabs.
applegrove
Sep 2019
#150
Even Biden's plans will be DOA in the Senate. So talk - no matter who does it - is cheap.
Blaukraut
Sep 2019
#70
because he is perceived as the best bet to beat the orange bloat and we need to beat Rump nt
Celerity
Sep 2019
#49
I think people also know what Joe is like and how he would govern because he was VP.
napi21
Sep 2019
#58
He makes sense. A few wording glitches now and then. Warren pontificates like she's in a lecture
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#71
You don't seem to want answers, just opportunities to tear other DU'ers down
emulatorloo
Sep 2019
#74
Name recognition and Barack Obama. Pre-Obama, Biden was not considered pres. material.
Garrett78
Sep 2019
#119
You misunderstand how valuable name recognition is. Everyone knows him, and he didn't shit the bed
NCLefty
Sep 2019
#120
Biden hooked me with his opening ad featuring Charlottesville. He really gets it. ...
Hekate
Sep 2019
#124
Doesn't he though. Starts off with a preamble bashing Biden, "and telling us how bad he is", then
still_one
Sep 2019
#127
On what basis do you make that speculation? If you subscribe to that, then aren't you implying that
still_one
Sep 2019
#129
Of course we all have our opinions, I just think it is way too early in the primary
still_one
Sep 2019
#131