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genxlib

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11. It isn't necessary to be free to be fair

Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:12 AM

Apr 2019

Lower the baseline cost to a quarter or third of what it is now. Then further lower it further for those in real need.

I have never been a big fan of free because it prevents people from being motivated to actually understand and extract the appropriate value out of the process.

I am also not a fan of free health care either. I think it helps to have people responsible for a reasonable co-pay.

In full disclosure, I have a daughter headed to college next year and it will likely cost me an small fortune. I would certainly benefit from free but I am still not an advocate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Either free Turin_C3PO Apr 2019 #1

Gotta do something to remain competitive in a Global Economy when competing countries do it. TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #23

nothing is free, but the student debt is oppressive rampartc Apr 2019 #2

TANSTAAFL WheelWalker Apr 2019 #3

I am hoping that handmade34 Apr 2019 #51

I'm not in favor of my tax dollars paying for Bill Gates kids college mcar Apr 2019 #4

Your thoughts mirror mine. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #8

It was HRC's position too mcar Apr 2019 #10

Harvard won't be free zipplewrath Apr 2019 #27

Plenty of well off families send their kids to public colleges mcar Apr 2019 #32

UC used to be free zipplewrath Apr 2019 #34

It has gotten harder to get into UF mcar Apr 2019 #35

4 year institutions should offer "trades" zipplewrath Apr 2019 #37

Also, Classical Liberal Arts in Jeffersonian Tradition - the love of all Knowledge n/t MarcA Apr 2019 #42

Yes to both! mcar Apr 2019 #43

Harvard has made itself free for students from families making less than $150K Recursion Apr 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 2019 #38

All the Ivies have done this mcar Apr 2019 #44

100% agree Freddie Apr 2019 #29

Ridiculous argument. The wealthy will always send their kids to elite private schools. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #31

See my post #32 mcar Apr 2019 #33

Howard Dean: "Bill Gates deserves free health care" brooklynite Apr 2019 #46

I take his point mcar Apr 2019 #48

Labeling anything like this "free" will open the Democrats to ridicule from the GOP Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #6

It's still a rather non-strategic nomenclature, as is 'Medicare-For-All' mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #14

+1 Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #22

No, because I'm not asking for 'free' and it never could be 'free' so it's a dumb rallying cry mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #26

But in this case, the GOP is correct. Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #20

Agree..... pangaia Apr 2019 #15

Lower the tuition's (not free) so that people can work part time and still pay off their Peacetrain Apr 2019 #7

Agree...add trade schools to for folks who don't want college like in Germany WA-03 Democrat Apr 2019 #9

There is no money in trade these days. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40

As late as the early 90's I was paying $325/quarter in tuition at a Cal State college ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #17

It isn't necessary to be free to be fair genxlib Apr 2019 #11

neither would be 'free' to begin with. TAXES ...... pangaia Apr 2019 #13

I really am tired of hearing the phrase. "FREE" college for all. or.... pangaia Apr 2019 #12

Nothing is free. LisaM Apr 2019 #16

Free college for all is a stupid idea BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #18

After looking recently at what it costs today to go where I went in late 60s, I don't see how people Hoyt Apr 2019 #19

Free college without income limits is a disaster... community college can be be free in fact some Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24

If they can pass the entrance exams...ok... Maxheader Apr 2019 #25

That is a given ... I got into it w/a RWNJ who insisted 'free college' mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #28

And with some shitty schools in poor neighborhoods who do you think will pass the tests? You will Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

The social benefits of treating education (knowledge) as a public good seem obvious to me. nt PETRUS Apr 2019 #30

Not everyone is cut out to be a academic. marylandblue Apr 2019 #41

I would favor it with a couple caveats right off the top of my head.... DaGimpster Apr 2019 #45

"Free College for All" implies that there is college for all... brooklynite Apr 2019 #47

Exactly Recursion Apr 2019 #49

That's been the case in tech (where I work) for a while now. DaGimpster Apr 2019 #50