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ehrnst

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55. Of course you didn't see that anyone walk out. They were required to attend.
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 02:20 PM
Apr 2019

They were polite to the news media. You seemed to see some "piercing of the bubble" - what does that mean? That they didn't speak like you anticipated that they would? That they would feel empowered or permitted to boo him at a required convocation?

So, nothing they said indicated that they indeed articulated that they had changed their mind on climate change.

I just wanted to clarify that this is something that you "seemed to see" - that they were saying things to a media person you didn't expect them to say. You are making a lot of assumptions, and giving much, much credit to Senator Sanders that isn't really backed up by evidence about the ability to "make inroads."

What is "making inroads?" Other than being polite when asked by the media what they thought of a speaker? Especially one that LU wanted there specifically to prove that they weren't "an echo chamber."

Even your language describing what you saw as definite evidence of "bubble piercing" and "getting through to" these conservative Christian college students is very vague. Perhaps you expected them to boo him? To talk about him in a way that would be bad manners? "Disruptive behavior" is not permitted, along with "Causing public embarrassment to the College, the University, or its representatives or employees." - which would cover being rude or commenting poorly on a guest speaker (Especially an older man) in front of the media. .

You may want to have seen this effect he had on these students, but it's not something that's really quantifiable, or based in fact, but your subjective feelings about Senator Sanders. That's fine, but you just need to acknowlege that it's something you feel, not something objective and quantifiable.

It would be hard to believe that Bernie Sanders won many votes after his speech, but his very appearance seems to have made a difference. It legitimized the more liberal or progressive minority on campus — certainly to themselves and possibly to the University at large. It was a catalyst to come out into the open. Dylan Childers, a political science major with a “Bernie 2016” sign, said, “Over 90 percent right-wing here, but they are more open to opinions than you imagine. “


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-spoke-at-jerry-falwells-college-heres-the-reaction-he-got/

Maybe, despite your assumptions about the "bubble" there are those who were already thinking that way before Sanders came to speak.






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Fox News Democratic Town halls [View all] rogue emissary Apr 2019 OP
Bernie, WTF? Beakybird Apr 2019 #1
Why not? Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #3
Ask some of the folks on DU who just last month flame broiled Donna Brazile ehrnst Apr 2019 #30
Apples and Rutabagas Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #36
So you think if someone is a regular contributor on FoxNews, then that's suspect. ehrnst Apr 2019 #47
Don't really care, Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #50
So you've changed your mind from Wednesday when you said this? ehrnst Apr 2019 #51
The alternative is TheFarseer Apr 2019 #15
Well, a few years ago he held what was later billed as a "rally" at Liberty University! George II Apr 2019 #35
I was fascinated by his appearance at Liberty.He actually broke through to some kids on climate esp stuffmatters Apr 2019 #37
Where did you hear about LU students changing their minds on climate change? ehrnst Apr 2019 #49
I watched the speech and the MSM interviews with some of the students afterward. stuffmatters Apr 2019 #54
Of course you didn't see that anyone walk out. They were required to attend. ehrnst Apr 2019 #55
Wow. I stated my perceptions, that's all. I think Bernie did a good thing by going, you don't. stuffmatters Apr 2019 #56
I said nothing about the speech being a "good thing" or "bad thing." I pointed out that ehrnst Apr 2019 #57
Mayor Pete has already been interviewed by Fox newscasters. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #2
Do you also think the candidates rogue emissary Apr 2019 #6
I don't know enough about them to have an opinion on that. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #10
Fair enough. rogue emissary Apr 2019 #13
Chris Wallace was the interviewer Celerity Apr 2019 #18
That's right! I'm terrible with names. Thanks, my dear Celerity! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #20
fox is not a legitimate news source . stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #4
Every single corporate media conglomerate is a propaganda outlet, FOX just happens to be the worst. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #5
I think you have to talk to them RussBLib Apr 2019 #7
Supporting Fox news gives tjem legitimacy BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #8
Few votes to be found zipplewrath Apr 2019 #26
WTH are democratic candidates only going to address workinclasszero Apr 2019 #9
If Kamala Harris went on FoxNews, there would be people yelling that "proves she's ehrnst Apr 2019 #16
So it's blue states only I guess workinclasszero Apr 2019 #21
So you've changed your mind about red state "outreach" since last month? ehrnst Apr 2019 #22
You rock! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #24
... ehrnst Apr 2019 #31
I await the response mcar Apr 2019 #38
Steve Lesser was ripped to shreds for being a guest. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #39
For any Democrat to go on Faux News BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #25
Democratic voters in red states do not watch Fox News Gothmog Apr 2019 #33
You are not going to change brainwashed cult members minds kimbutgar Apr 2019 #11
Exactly this nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #27
If we can reach 3-4% of them that wins us the election. nycbos Apr 2019 #12
I believe t-Rump won because of free media. dogman Apr 2019 #14
Jeff Weaver is a regular on FoxNews. No surprise. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #17
The first two choices overlap quite a bit bernie59 Apr 2019 #19
Here is my issue with our candidates going on Fox News..they are going to use it against them Peacetrain Apr 2019 #23
I seriously doubt we would be having this conversation if it was anyone other than Bernie. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #28
Certainly not Donna Brazile as we saw with the excoriation of her last month ehrnst Apr 2019 #29
Working for Fox, and participating in a forum on Fox are 2 different things. I don' t have much vsrazdem Apr 2019 #32
If she stays true and is able to punch, jab and make good points I say bravo and we need UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #42
Well it didn't work so well when MSNBC and CNN tried to hire Fox personnel. They didn't last long. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #44
Well no...it often doesn't translate the other way because their pundits are complete UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #45
How about someone who's a regular on Fox News? ehrnst Apr 2019 #46
Please UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #43
Him going on Fox is as bad, if not worse, than him holding a quasi-rally at Liberty University. George II Apr 2019 #34
howard shultz was on tonight samnsara Apr 2019 #40
Yes shine some sunlight ova there with Dem town halls. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #41
You're funny.. Choice #4.. Cha Apr 2019 #48
JMO, but those of you criticizing Bernie, watoos Apr 2019 #52
Not a problem according to the DNC Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #53
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