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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: I voted in the TX Democratic primary today. Here's what I can tell you. [View all]lapucelle
(19,575 posts)61. Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism?
Suddenly, Franklin D. Roosevelt is all the rage. But many Democrats dont understand what his legacy means.
Suddenly [...] Roosevelt is alive again in the 2020 Democratic primary campaign: His ideas for using government to improve lives echo through stump speeches across Iowa and New Hampshire.
But theres a right way and a wrong way to revive Roosevelt. Before we allow anyone to assume his mantle, lets separate candidates merely seeking inspiration for big ideas from those misappropriating his legacy.
Bernie Sanders, the most explicit of the Roosevelt wannabes, is in the latter category. He has repurposed the Second Bill of Rights address on his website to report that Roosevelt was constantly attacked as a socialist, so he must have actually been one just like the independent senator from Vermont. Hes betting that a younger post-Cold War generation wont conflate his brand of democratic socialism with communism, as many of their elders wrongly do.
But Roosevelt was an improvisational pragmatist a juggler, he called himself not a socialist. While his idea for Social Security contained socialistic elements (as did George W. Bushs 2008 bank bailout), he understood that in a nation of strivers, the concept is a political loser.
When asked his political philosophy, he replied: Im a Christian and a Democrat, thats all.
Suddenly [...] Roosevelt is alive again in the 2020 Democratic primary campaign: His ideas for using government to improve lives echo through stump speeches across Iowa and New Hampshire.
But theres a right way and a wrong way to revive Roosevelt. Before we allow anyone to assume his mantle, lets separate candidates merely seeking inspiration for big ideas from those misappropriating his legacy.
Bernie Sanders, the most explicit of the Roosevelt wannabes, is in the latter category. He has repurposed the Second Bill of Rights address on his website to report that Roosevelt was constantly attacked as a socialist, so he must have actually been one just like the independent senator from Vermont. Hes betting that a younger post-Cold War generation wont conflate his brand of democratic socialism with communism, as many of their elders wrongly do.
But Roosevelt was an improvisational pragmatist a juggler, he called himself not a socialist. While his idea for Social Security contained socialistic elements (as did George W. Bushs 2008 bank bailout), he understood that in a nation of strivers, the concept is a political loser.
When asked his political philosophy, he replied: Im a Christian and a Democrat, thats all.
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Running for re-election in 1936, Roosevelt said of his big-money critics: They are unanimous in their hate of me and I welcome their hatred.
But when Mr. Sanders quotes that line in his stump speech, he doesnt mention that Roosevelt soon tacked to the center. He rebuffed calls for national health insurance as impractical, backed a balanced budget, insisted that most welfare be connected to work and supported free trade.
As World War II approached, he abandoned the New Deal entirely and invited the corporate titans who loathed him to help him win it. With the end of the war in sight, he renewed his liberal domestic agenda with the landmark G.I. Bill, which inspired todays Democratic focus on affordable education.
But when Mr. Sanders quotes that line in his stump speech, he doesnt mention that Roosevelt soon tacked to the center. He rebuffed calls for national health insurance as impractical, backed a balanced budget, insisted that most welfare be connected to work and supported free trade.
As World War II approached, he abandoned the New Deal entirely and invited the corporate titans who loathed him to help him win it. With the end of the war in sight, he renewed his liberal domestic agenda with the landmark G.I. Bill, which inspired todays Democratic focus on affordable education.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/opinion/fdr-democrats-2020.html
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I voted in the TX Democratic primary today. Here's what I can tell you. [View all]
Laelth
Mar 2020
OP
The current president has made numerous promises he hasn't delivered but his supporters do not care.
LonePirate
Mar 2020
#6
I think TwilightZone's point is that we should be smarter than Trumpers, but OK
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2020
#14
If that was the case, Warren would be running away with the primaries as she backs up her promises
LonePirate
Mar 2020
#24
No, because she has no realistic chances of winning the necessary swing states.
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2020
#28
What good is winning if you have no significant policies beyond band aids to implement?
LonePirate
Mar 2020
#32
I agree, and given his long record of actual legislation, including the VAWA and the first-ever
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2020
#36
We do, and again, if Warren can't win the swing states, she can't win the presidency, and
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2020
#38
Except she can win them, especially if people want actual solutions to their real world problems.
LonePirate
Mar 2020
#40
We want our candidates to have lofty goals. They will inevitably not achieve all or even most
pampango
Mar 2020
#39
Most of the 300 bills sitting on McConnell's desk are bipartisan in some form.
TwilightZone
Mar 2020
#60
Yes, and they want someone who WILL fight, not capitulate after a half-hearted effort. nt
Doremus
Mar 2020
#44
Come to a blue state. Our Democrats are raising that minimum wage and taking care of the
LizBeth
Mar 2020
#12
I get that. I was too. You miss the points. The Democrats are doing the damn work where they
LizBeth
Mar 2020
#25
"we don't care whether or not he can actually deliver it" So, not only are you selling your vote
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2020
#17
I thought we decided you were going to vote for the candidate who has always been a Democrat.
zackymilly
Mar 2020
#22
"Now, as to my vote. Please remember that I think that Daffy Duck could beat Donald Trump in Nov. "
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2020
#48
Last time a "youth back movement" to get "their" candidate happen was 1972, I dare say
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#52
FDR didn't promise "a chicken in [sic] every pot" in 1932. Republican Herbert Hoover did in 1928,
lapucelle
Mar 2020
#56
Well accidently attributing the slogan of the Republican who ushered in the Great Depression
lapucelle
Mar 2020
#62