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lapucelle

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61. Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism?
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020
Suddenly, Franklin D. Roosevelt is all the rage. But many Democrats don’t understand what his legacy means.

Suddenly [...] Roosevelt is alive again in the 2020 Democratic primary campaign: His ideas for using government to improve lives echo through stump speeches across Iowa and New Hampshire.

But there’s a right way and a wrong way to revive Roosevelt. Before we allow anyone to assume his mantle, let’s separate candidates merely seeking inspiration for big ideas from those misappropriating his legacy.

Bernie Sanders, the most explicit of the Roosevelt wannabes, is in the latter category. He has repurposed the “Second Bill of Rights” address on his website to report that Roosevelt was constantly attacked as a socialist, so he must have actually been one — just like the independent senator from Vermont.
He’s betting that a younger post-Cold War generation won’t conflate his brand of democratic socialism with communism, as many of their elders wrongly do.

But Roosevelt was an improvisational pragmatist — a “juggler,” he called himself — not a socialist. While his idea for Social Security contained socialistic elements (as did George W. Bush’s 2008 bank bailout), he understood that in a nation of strivers, the concept is a political loser.

When asked his political philosophy, he replied: “I’m a Christian and a Democrat, that’s all.”

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Running for re-election in 1936, Roosevelt said of his big-money critics: “They are unanimous in their hate of me and I welcome their hatred.”

But when Mr. Sanders quotes that line in his stump speech, he doesn’t mention that Roosevelt soon tacked to the center. He rebuffed calls for national health insurance as impractical, backed a balanced budget, insisted that most welfare be connected to work and supported free trade.

As World War II approached, he abandoned the New Deal entirely and invited the corporate titans who loathed him to help him win it. With the end of the war in sight, he renewed his liberal domestic agenda with the landmark G.I. Bill, which inspired today’s Democratic focus on affordable education.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/opinion/fdr-democrats-2020.html
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Um...I am of the opinion that we have FOUR viable candidates. Reader Rabbit Mar 2020 #1
I had seventeen choices. Laelth Mar 2020 #3
"we don't care whether or not he can actually deliver" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #2
The current president has made numerous promises he hasn't delivered but his supporters do not care. LonePirate Mar 2020 #6
I think TwilightZone's point is that we should be smarter than Trumpers, but OK LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #14
If that was the case, Warren would be running away with the primaries as she backs up her promises LonePirate Mar 2020 #24
No, because she has no realistic chances of winning the necessary swing states. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #28
What good is winning if you have no significant policies beyond band aids to implement? LonePirate Mar 2020 #32
I agree, and given his long record of actual legislation, including the VAWA and the first-ever LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #36
You and I certainly disagree on the depths of his proposed policies. LonePirate Mar 2020 #37
We do, and again, if Warren can't win the swing states, she can't win the presidency, and LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #38
Except she can win them, especially if people want actual solutions to their real world problems. LonePirate Mar 2020 #40
OK LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #45
We want our candidates to have lofty goals. They will inevitably not achieve all or even most pampango Mar 2020 #39
It's the difference between aiming high and shooting your own foot, Doremus Mar 2020 #43
A public option is aiming high dansolo Mar 2020 #46
It's the difference between fantasy and reality. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #47
I seem to recall Biden promising repukes Alpeduez21 Mar 2020 #55
Most of the 300 bills sitting on McConnell's desk are bipartisan in some form. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #60
Hate to bust up your narrative HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #4
Ya beat me to it still_one Mar 2020 #9
Here's my favorite picture of FDR HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #13
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No need to insult her. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #16
Well, darn! That does bust up my narrative. Laelth Mar 2020 #18
Yes, and they want someone who WILL fight, not capitulate after a half-hearted effort. nt Doremus Mar 2020 #44
It was Henry the fourth, a french king who first said it. drray23 Mar 2020 #20
Good grief now we have to match step in the primary? jimfields33 Mar 2020 #27
I support most of Sanders' policies. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5
Many thanks to you and your daughter Laelth. CentralMass Mar 2020 #7
Chicken in every pot was Herbert Hoover, not FDR still_one Mar 2020 #8
As mentioned, it was Hoover who promised a chicken in every pot Kaleva Mar 2020 #10
K&R and thanks for your support! mvd Mar 2020 #11
It won't be big enough to guarantee the nomination. Laelth Mar 2020 #64
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I would if I could. Laelth Mar 2020 #21
I get that. I was too. You miss the points. The Democrats are doing the damn work where they LizBeth Mar 2020 #25
"we don't care whether or not he can actually deliver it" So, not only are you selling your vote LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #17
I thought we decided you were going to vote for the candidate who has always been a Democrat. zackymilly Mar 2020 #22
Sigh. That's a tough one. Laelth Mar 2020 #29
Never let your kids run all over you. zackymilly Mar 2020 #30
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That's a good sign, imo. Laelth Mar 2020 #34
Roosevelt never promised a chicken in every pot. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #35
no chicken? how bout an F35 in every garage nt msongs Mar 2020 #41
Admittedly, those planes are awfully expensive. Laelth Mar 2020 #50
It sounds like you're voting for the promise of a chicken. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #53
You nailed it, and I hope you get the message. Laelth Mar 2020 #58
"Now, as to my vote. Please remember that I think that Daffy Duck could beat Donald Trump in Nov. " DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #48
Excellent point. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #51
Where is he getting that notion? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #54
No idea. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #57
Thank you and nice to have you aboard! Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #49
Last time a "youth back movement" to get "their" candidate happen was 1972, I dare say beachbumbob Mar 2020 #52
FDR didn't promise "a chicken in [sic] every pot" in 1932. Republican Herbert Hoover did in 1928, lapucelle Mar 2020 #56
No chicken? Laelth Mar 2020 #59
Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism? lapucelle Mar 2020 #61
Well accidently attributing the slogan of the Republican who ushered in the Great Depression lapucelle Mar 2020 #62
LOL. You're right. Laelth Mar 2020 #63
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