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frazzled

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48. Because only egomaniacal, self-righteous autocrats do that

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:33 PM

Mar 2020

And it accomplishes nothing except harm to the general objective: defeating Trumpism. He is indeed a camera hog, and revels in surrounding himself with crowds of young fans, just like most autocrats do. But it's not a good thing. It's about self-aggrandizement and lack of introspection, nothing else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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All the way to the convention, Bernie! [View all] DanTex Mar 2020 OP

Ha! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #1

Keep laughing. It's a joke I guess. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #47

He has a right to stay in. apcalc Mar 2020 #61

Those sowing the seeds of divisiveness will be the first to deny responsibility!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #66

there is only one group keeps attacking the democratic party and the majority of its members nt msongs Mar 2020 #88

Wow. The projection is astounding. Aquaria Mar 2020 #195

he could get sick !!!! i think for the good of himself & family he should quit trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #119

Uh, so could Joe. zonkers Mar 2020 #183

Uh, Bernie has a heart condition now. Joe doesn't. Uh, JOE IS WAY AHEAD & BERNIE CAN'T CATCH UP trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #198

No kidding. cwydro Mar 2020 #49

Burn it all down!111 HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #2

The "future" could happen a lot sooner if young people and progressives would vote. Lanius Mar 2020 #3

That's true. Youth turnout is a problem. DanTex Mar 2020 #6

So why is that? squirecam Mar 2020 #23

A lot of new video games have been released lately. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #166

Maybe young (much younger than me) don't care much for the drudgery of voting. ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #168

So if they "care" so much, why aren't they voting? Blue_true Mar 2020 #112

Progressives are voting. Just not exclusively for Sanders. Stand and Fight Mar 2020 #77

Bernie voter here Demguy81 Mar 2020 #4

Welcome to DU! PatSeg Mar 2020 #8

Why not? What's the harm? DanTex Mar 2020 #10

He can already do that. Demguy81 Mar 2020 #14

Staying in the race gives him much more visibility. DanTex Mar 2020 #18

No, it doesn't Demguy81 Mar 2020 #20

Why is delaying the national campaign bad? DanTex Mar 2020 #59

Why is unity bad? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #60

Unity is good. DanTex Mar 2020 #62

It's bad because the voters matter more than the Bernie "movement ". FloridaBlues Mar 2020 #89

More than half the states haven't even voted yet. Meadowoak Mar 2020 #134

Do you not know how to do math? Aquaria Mar 2020 #197

It's not!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #91

If Bernie were merely running his platform leftieNanner Mar 2020 #56

+1 Lulu KC Mar 2020 #129

That's a big part of Bernie's Movement...trashing the Democratic party sop Mar 2020 #177

It is bad for a few basic reasons Jarqui Mar 2020 #95

Great post - spot on. aquamarina Mar 2020 #130

+100000 Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #159

What's the harm? Did you miss the 2016 Democrtic convention? John Fante Mar 2020 #99

Oh, right. Because saving the nation is secondary. It is all about Bernie nt eilen Mar 2020 #165

What delay? Triloon Mar 2020 #55

+1000 Meadowoak Mar 2020 #135

Primaries have been determined early on long before your fake savior showed up Aquaria Mar 2020 #139

"The democratic party is not your private club, though you might wish it were..." LanternWaste Mar 2020 #163

you're quoting one of my earlier posts, but Triloon Mar 2020 #164

They are promoting Biden is senile, the are attacking Democratic leaders and us voters. LizBeth Mar 2020 #37

No "they" aren't. Bernie's talking about issues. DanTex Mar 2020 #42

His senior staffers do. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #116

Dishonest, yes. LizBeth Mar 2020 #136

Because only egomaniacal, self-righteous autocrats do that frazzled Mar 2020 #48

How does it harm the general objective of defeating Trump? DanTex Mar 2020 #58

We're not falling for that this time frazzled Mar 2020 #64

I'm not threatening anything. I'm just saying it's good for Bernie to keep campaigning. DanTex Mar 2020 #67

If you and Bernie want to retain the young voters to fight Trump frazzled Mar 2020 #90

Worse Aquaria Mar 2020 #148

Resources, for one thing. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #81

Losing primary after bruising primary Codeine Mar 2020 #106

Blackmailing us to chum for votes will not work any better than it did in 2016 Aquaria Mar 2020 #140

Also: If you're not already motivated to defeat Dolt45 this year Aquaria Mar 2020 #145

"keeps holding rallies"??? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #94

Because every loss humiliates and angers Codeine Mar 2020 #104

Did you play the Black Night in the Holy Grail movie? nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #113

As long as he doesn't slang Biden... dawg day Mar 2020 #127

welcome LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #79

cool story bro. progressoid Mar 2020 #83

Yes, the movement couldn't just be Bernie-- dawg day Mar 2020 #176

The Man Does Not want To Be John The Baptist, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #178

Great analogy! dawg day Mar 2020 #179

You mean the young voters he was counting on who didn't vote? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #5

Ya, I laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh too..... fleabiscuit Mar 2020 #7

You are funny..... chillfactor Mar 2020 #9

What's also funny HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #15

Why would Republicans freak out over Bernie refusing to John Fante Mar 2020 #11

Because Republicans hate Bernie's progressive message. DanTex Mar 2020 #12

They hate everything Democratic. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #24

Not really. People like Frum, Rubin, Kristol seem to have a particular dislike for Bernie. DanTex Mar 2020 #27

Gop types love Berie ...he is destined to lose and it seems divide. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #122

What is a primary without Bernie attacking the nominee for the next four months? RandySF Mar 2020 #13

Exactly FirstLight Mar 2020 #16

If you want to have a say, you gotta vote. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #26

Gen X actually 😉 FirstLight Mar 2020 #29

They may have passion Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #31

I'm Gen Z violasays Mar 2020 #70

Gen Z kids are pretty cool. Codeine Mar 2020 #110

Guess what I'm over? HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #45

This GenXer suggests that you might be less ignored Codeine Mar 2020 #108

You know what would have done more for Bernie and his movement than anything else? Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #17

The thing that gets me is that a Trump win this year torpedoes the progressive cause ThisIsNotPossible Mar 2020 #38

+1....and Welcome to DU. oasis Mar 2020 #186

He should spend countless hours bringing home to his supporters why they should vote in Nov SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #19

And he will, after the convention. But until then, it's still the primary. DanTex Mar 2020 #22

Biden's lead will increase after each and every primary from now through June..... George II Mar 2020 #34

OK, so what's the worry? DanTex Mar 2020 #40

In the meantime he'll spend the next month bashing me and many other Democrats.... George II Mar 2020 #46

You don't count. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #50

Women apparently don't count, either Aquaria Mar 2020 #149

Can't wait to hear Bernie triple down on his praise for Fidel before the FL primary redstateblues Mar 2020 #73

He is DONE! Go ahead and ask people for their vote but stop negative attacks SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #41

Too little, too late. Aquaria Mar 2020 #142

"Bernie's movement" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #21

It's always odd when people who are opposed to Bernie's movement give advice as to DanTex Mar 2020 #25

Ten bucks say you fail to see the irony in your having allged that. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #44

And yet he, who is opposed to the Democratic Party, has been telling it (US!).... George II Mar 2020 #52

You know what's odd? MontanaMama Mar 2020 #132

It's odd when people refuse to heed constructive advice Aquaria Mar 2020 #143

There is not movement and never was. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #157

He's a mensch janterry Mar 2020 #28

Yes HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #33

I'm stating my opinion janterry Mar 2020 #35

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Aquaria Mar 2020 #144

I don't know why you (and others) janterry Mar 2020 #146

Please Aquaria Mar 2020 #152

What's the point? According to 538 Biden will win all the remaining states/territories..... George II Mar 2020 #30

Because that strategy worked so well in 2016, eh? comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #36

That was perfectly obvious four years ago. comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #69

We who? MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #147

So when you say "it's obvious", that's your way of saying "I have no data to support this" LanternWaste Mar 2020 #39

Republicans are not freaking out they're cheering him on. njhoneybadger Mar 2020 #43

His biggest fan is donald trump. George II Mar 2020 #57

Absolutely. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #51

future? If its all about the party, sure. If its about actually voting and DOING stuff, not likely beachbumbob Mar 2020 #53

Hoping for five. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #54

Shocker awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #63

And Bernie's overriding message remains the need to get rid of Trump. He says it in totodeinhere Mar 2020 #65

And then, by his actions, works to make sure that doesn't happen. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #72

Oh come on. He is not working to make sure that Trump gets reelected. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #87

If he meant it he would concede. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #123

Not if he believes that the nominee will loose to Trump unless he moves to the left. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #125

If that were true people would be voting for Bernie over Joe. They aren't. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #150

Actions speak louder than words...he knows what he is doing...and he would have won if voters wanted Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #155

You may want to think about that last paragraph rufus dog Mar 2020 #68

If he goes to the convention, Trump wins. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #71

LOL... Seems like some people will never learn. Wowzers! Stand and Fight Mar 2020 #74

He can stay in... SidDithers Mar 2020 #75

Yup. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #76

He's going to support the nominee, like he always said he would, and like he did in 2016. The Polack MSgt Mar 2020 #78

What happened in the contested primary process of 2008? guillaumeb Mar 2020 #80

Is this a paid political advertisement? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2020 #82

Yes, because it worked out so well last time. mercuryblues Mar 2020 #84

You're really going to teach us a lesson this time, eh?!? PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #85

Feel the burn, ouch BlueJac Mar 2020 #86

Were you troubled in the least by his press conference? karynnj Mar 2020 #92

I'm sure Bernie will support the nominee.... it's his followers who may have a problem. secondwind Mar 2020 #93

Bernie ain't the future. Far from it. Voters overwhelmingly rejected him NYC Liberal Mar 2020 #96

Older voters rejected him. Younger voters supported him by huge margins. DanTex Mar 2020 #97

LOL! Look at the election % that is the youth vote. It's pitiful redstateblues Mar 2020 #102

Younger voters didn't come out to vote. The youth vote was the smallest demographic Kaleva Mar 2020 #107

The younger voters didn't show up and it doesn't matter...Sanders lost badly both on super Tuesday Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #156

AOC Backed Away from Sanders Campaign after Joe Rogan Endorsement. ehrnst Mar 2020 #170

So is John Lewis going to be booed again at this convention?? Gothmog Mar 2020 #181

Yeah. Sanders has declared himself our future by pointing out how... NNadir Mar 2020 #98

Great post. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #100

BS has lost time to get over it and move on ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #101

He lost. Biden won. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #103

Pretty bleak "future" if he can't even inspire them to vote. eom tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #105

Until those young voters consistently out vote their older Blue_true Mar 2020 #109

The GOP's wet dream. honest.abe Mar 2020 #111

I can't imagine why he thinks Codeine Mar 2020 #114

Well it is the future of 30% of the party. Piratedog Mar 2020 #115

Only in fantasy land. nt ucrdem Mar 2020 #117

It will be injury by a thousand cuts NYMinute Mar 2020 #118

Bernie should focus on building support... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #120

If he were capable of building support for his agenda, Aquaria Mar 2020 #141

Yup. I 100% agree. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #154

He hasn't a clue how to do those things. He's a comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #161

Agreed. He's a gadfly. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #162

Yeah well -they are only helping Trump. And when he is reelected because of this sort of bern Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #121

That makes zero sense to me. He's spent the last year pushing progressive ideas. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #124

Do Bernie supporters really believe oldtime dfl_er Mar 2020 #126

So I guess that if that Bernie decides to stay in the race TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #128

Voters in late-voting states should have choices or they may stay home & mess up local races. Liberty Belle Mar 2020 #131

The flaw in your argument TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #133

Nice try. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #151

Nonsense that is an excuse...they don't give a damn...Sanders is losing everywhere...he lost Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #158

They been saying the same shit for 60 years greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #137

Boy that is some kool aid grantcart Mar 2020 #138

18 to 25 year olds..... quickesst Mar 2020 #153

Sanders scorched earth approach to force the Democratic party left.. honest.abe Mar 2020 #160

You knew you were going to get this reaction posting this. Why do it? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #167

LOL sanders staying in the primary fight will only weaken sanders limited bargaining position Gothmog Mar 2020 #169

... SidDithers Mar 2020 #171

Wow. Just wow. No perspective. Whatsoever SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #172

Kick...nt SidDithers Mar 2020 #173

No thank you Gothmog Mar 2020 #174

It hobbles down-ticket races. Do you want to try to re-gain the Senate and hold the House? KitSileya Mar 2020 #175

sanders sent Cynthia Nixon to Florida on the Castro issue?? Gothmog Mar 2020 #180

I dont trust anyone but Liz or Bernie to stop the corporatists from capitalizing on this crisis. zonkers Mar 2020 #182

They are both out ... you'll have to wait until 2024 now. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #184

No shit. zonkers Mar 2020 #185

Glad you recognize it. Bravo. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #190

Elizabeth Warren Did Not Put Herself Above The American People TomCADem Mar 2020 #187

Maybe even the sanders have realized that Sirota is toxic Gothmog Mar 2020 #188

"We don't know what it is with this asshole. Hav Mar 2020 #189

He's talking about Medicare for All and the virus and doing a good job. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #191

Wow. BS Should Stay In Just In Case Something Happens to Biden? TomCADem Mar 2020 #192

Lots of hostility in your post. I'm very sorry to see that. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #193

I'd rather him go back to DC to do a lot of all hat no cattle Aquaria Mar 2020 #194

Even though Bernie gave the impression that he was suspending, OnDoutside Mar 2020 #196

Bernie's movement is obviously NOT the future of the Democratic party. He needs to drop out. trueblue2007 Mar 2020 #199