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thesquanderer

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22. Quite a few other Senators voted the same way Sanders did...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:11 PM
Mar 2020

...including one of my favorites, Russ Feingold.

But as I basically said elsewhere in the thread, of course "there's always an excuse" as you put it, because bills are complicated:

Most votes of significance are a balance of good and bad, and you have to decide which is the better vote on balance. Sometimes he voted for something that included a lot of stuff he railed against and unsuccessfully tried to get changed, like the 1994 crime bill or the Affordable Care Act. Other times he voted against something even though it included something he really wanted... like in this case, he had already voted for an auto bailout which this bill also included and he really wanted, but on balance, he thought this bill had more downside than upside. This is what EVERY member of congress does.

There was no way a bailout bill of some sort was not going to happen. If this one had failed, they would have gone back to the drawing board to try to craft something that would pass. That's what Sanders would have been hoping for. But it did pass, so that was the end of it.
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Of course the actions of the Obama administration comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #1
Sanders did not want to guillotine the bankers. This opinion piece is wrong when it says... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #8
I understand but lots of lefties demanded that they comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #12
Sanders was not demanding prosecutions. But he wanted the bailout financed differently. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #16
I don't recall mentioning Sanders in my post so why are you comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #18
I thought your initial post was agreeing with the opinion piece in the OP... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #21
They had broken the law c_junk Mar 2020 #25
I wonder what BS thinks would have happened to the assets Hav Mar 2020 #2
Interesting how throwing Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #3
Oh ouch!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #4
The bailout was necessary - for bankers to get their bonuses... PoliticAverse Mar 2020 #5
It was centrist, business as usual, patty cake with Wall Street. Magoo48 Mar 2020 #6
Eoooo "Centrists".. omg! Cha Mar 2020 #15
You didn't say I was wrong. Magoo48 Mar 2020 #19
"Centrists"!!! omg Moderates who Won us the House in 2018! Cha Mar 2020 #23
If the bailout didn't occur and the banks failed, MILLIONS of Americans in the 99% would have lost.. George II Mar 2020 #7
Sanders supported a bailout, but thought it needed to be fixed, as he explained at the time... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #9
He always has a reason for voting against something he "supports". George II Mar 2020 #10
Who doesn't? Most votes of significance are a balance of good and bad, and you have to decide... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #11
OF course.. "Enough Already! Thank you, SunSeeker! Cha Mar 2020 #13
Just one more thing to add to the long and growing list of reasons I cannot stand him. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #14
Sanders was in favor of the bailout, but not the way it was financed. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #17
There's always an excuse for him, isn't there? I've had enough excuses. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #20
Quite a few other Senators voted the same way Sanders did... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #22
He can never find a way to justify voting for the good. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #24
re: "He can never find a way to justify voting for the good." thesquanderer Mar 2020 #26
He's a fly in the ointment. That's really nothing to be proud of. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #29
I gave you examples of the crime bill and obamacare, which I guess you count as some of... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #30
Brady bill. (And I'm sure there's a "reasonable excuse" for that as well, eh?) NurseJackie Mar 2020 #31
I guess you typed that before I edited to include a gimme for the gun votes. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #32
HIPAA. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #33
Sanders voted yes on HIPAA like everyone else. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #34
So his smears and lies about the Democratic party are okay with you? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #35
re" Nobody is bashing Bernie" - Of course they are, with lies and misrepresentations, thesquanderer Mar 2020 #38
You've got a computer, look it up yourself. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #39
You mean HIPAA? I DID look it up. That's how I got the link I posted before... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #40
You know exactly what I'm talking about. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #41
Looks like you posted that before seeing my 1:05 edit, which I made when I realized... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #42
Yes... because my response of "HIPAA" may have been referring to something other than HIPAA. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #43
I think you've mixed up the posts. I was replying to your post #39. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #44
I told you already: You're on your own. I'm tired of these games. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #45
I did not insinuate you were a liar/dishonest. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #46
Now you're splitting hairs and making a very weak argument. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #47
Look at the time stamps. It was edited BEFORE you replied, thesquanderer Mar 2020 #48
Doesn't matter. I saw what I saw and you edited while I was typing. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #49
In the interest of complete transparency... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #50
It really doesn't matter what the reason or motivation was for editing... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #51
Again, saying that someone may be pulling something out of their ass (if they can't support it)... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #53
Thanks for proving my point. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #54
re: "Did you or did you not edit for your own benefit? Case closed." thesquanderer Mar 2020 #55
No... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #56
Two things... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #57
One uncomfortable item that I have come to believe is that Senator Sanders, Blue_true Mar 2020 #28
I don't disagree with Bernie that bankers got off too light, BUT.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #27
They should have bailed out the home owners. iwannaknow Mar 2020 #36
Of course. But they could get that passed. Dems did what they could do. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #37
Too Big To Fail...Too Big To Exist BidenBacker Mar 2020 #52
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