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TomCADem

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44. But She Was Saying That In Comparison To A Democratic Candidate

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:05 PM

Mar 2020

She was not comparing Trump to Bernie. In other words, if not Bernie, then it is better to have Trump because he will make things even worse in order to plant the seeds of revolution. So, to me, that is worse than Susan saying she thinks Trump's policies are good. To the contrary, she says Trump is preferable because he is so bad.

That is what I find most distressing about so many of Bernie's campaign surrogates. It is not that they support Bernie. Rather, its this idea that if Bernie does not win, they will do things to undermine the Democratic party and harm the people to help Trump such as pushing for third party candidates.

Why? Because a Trump as leader helps sharpen the contradictions as explained by Susan Sarandon. That is what I find objectionable. Bernie and his supporters opposing progressive reforms and competent leaders for fear that by improving the lives of people, the people might not feel the need for revolution. At that point, the so-called progressives, become as much a part of the problem as Trump in oppressing the people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie 'will play dirty': Ex-Vermont governor slams Sanders [View all] TomCADem Mar 2020 OP

Thank you! KR Cha Mar 2020 #1

Bernie Sanders' can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks TomCADem Mar 2020 #5

I know.. I think there's more Cha Mar 2020 #6

+1. Despicable assholes dalton99a Mar 2020 #7

Bernie ran a lie against Biden during the debate. True Blue American Mar 2020 #26

And what lie was that? jimfields33 Mar 2020 #27

Did you watch his commercial True Blue American Mar 2020 #28

Still playing frequently in Ohio. we can do it Mar 2020 #56

will? nt msongs Mar 2020 #2

His inner core of advisors all hate our Democratic Party. Nothing good will come of this. Celerity Mar 2020 #3

What i'd like to know is why in hell did the Dem party continue to let BS run again knowing onetexan Mar 2020 #20

they were terrified of a 3rd Party run by Sanders if he was blocked from running as a Dem Celerity Mar 2020 #22

he's already doing that - running as a faux Dem and trying to divide the party onetexan Mar 2020 #31

The DNC doesn't have the desire atm to just bigfoot Sanders and shut him down, as if they did that Celerity Mar 2020 #32

i'm aware the DNC doesn't have the balls to put a stop to Bernie's nonsense, which is maddening and onetexan Mar 2020 #34

wll, the only other Indie in the Senate is Angus King, and he isn't running for POTUS ever Celerity Mar 2020 #36

He should not ever be given the benefit of doubt showblue22 Mar 2020 #4

Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #8

Yes, BS is aiding the Idiot's agenda onetexan Mar 2020 #21

The next step after this election is for the Democratic Party in Vermont eilen Mar 2020 #54

That crud helped give us trump. I hope Sanders rises to occasion. Hoyt Mar 2020 #9

Saying it's all about policies, making it all about personal attacks because goals are the same. betsuni Mar 2020 #10

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Mar 2020 #11

We have already seen plenty of evidence of this NCProgressive Mar 2020 #12

Self deleted frazzled Mar 2020 #13

It's sad blue-wave Mar 2020 #14

No one is True Blue American Mar 2020 #29

Bullshit. lutherj Mar 2020 #15

Brilliant answer! True Blue American Mar 2020 #30

Yes, BS from BS blue-wave Mar 2020 #35

Bernie Surrogate Susan Sarandon Explained Why They Want Trump to Win TomCADem Mar 2020 #41

I'm not a Sanders fan, but SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #42

But She Was Saying That In Comparison To A Democratic Candidate TomCADem Mar 2020 #44

While we are disagreeing SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #46

It Is Not My Position. It Bernie's Supporter's Positions In Their Own Words TomCADem Mar 2020 #48

How in the hell SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #16

I think a lot of them were trolls, signed up, voted, and then left. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #38

You make a very good point. lamp_shade Mar 2020 #40

The New Talking Point Is A Rehash of An Old One, Bernie Should ... TomCADem Mar 2020 #57

Irony: "BS," there's just no getting away from that moniker. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #17

He might save lives if he thru in the towel now safeinOhio Mar 2020 #18

Will 14% support for BS change when he drops out? Not by much from the looks of things. lamp_shade Mar 2020 #19

Sanders as choice disappears and I assume this forum will be shut down like a gelateria in Milan Celerity Mar 2020 #23

Aha that's right. Then we'll watch Undecided and Gabbard %ages go up. lamp_shade Mar 2020 #24

I do not think the admins will keep it open once Bernie drops out, Gabbard is not worth it Celerity Mar 2020 #25

Most Bernie supporters here Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #45

See post #38. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #39

Hit the road, Bernie. You've overstayed your welcome. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #33

Sounds like you don't want them voting SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #43

Is anyone surprised by this? mcar Mar 2020 #37

Reminds that every VT senate election is rigged so that Hortensis Mar 2020 #47

Vermont's election is not rigged karynnj Mar 2020 #49

Democratic primary opponents are smashed with the comparatively Hortensis Mar 2020 #51

I live in Vermont karynnj Mar 2020 #53

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat" Hortensis Mar 2020 #55

It's always interesting that he claims R B Garr Mar 2020 #50

Populist Kool-Aid. Always a market for it of the sorts eager to Hortensis Mar 2020 #52

People notice and he lost. Cha Mar 2020 #58

Yes, and he's still "playing" dirty. It's not that he's a Hortensis Mar 2020 #59

Even In The Midst of a Health Crisis... TomCADem Mar 2020 #60

+1000. He'd be the nonentity he always had been, tho, Hortensis Mar 2020 #61