Democratic Primaries

Blasphemer

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29. I think 2008 was different....

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:02 PM

Mar 2020

After 8 years of Bush and the GOP reckoning of '06, it was clear that the Democratic Primary winner was going to win the presidency. That's why it was so hotly contested. It was essentially a GE. When this primary began, it was not clear at all that Trump would be defeated - thus the focus on electability.

But then COVID-19 happened and the markets tanked so suddenly it's looking like 2008 again, but by the time things really went south for Trump, Biden was already the clear presumptive nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I feel like I'm the only Biden supporter who wishes Bernie was more competitive... [View all] SKKY Mar 2020 OP

If young people Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #1

Absolutely!!! K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2020 #3

My Daughters are 28 and 25 leftieNanner Mar 2020 #4

I'm technically Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #7

Perhaps some of it comes from the parents' example leftieNanner Mar 2020 #11

We Got Nixon Out Of the '68, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #9

But Nixon was re-elected in 1972 Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #12

They Were Idiots, Sir, If They Did The Magistrate Mar 2020 #16

I don't disagree with that. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #19

Hey there! madaboutharry Mar 2020 #23

God I hate this contempt for young people. Sanders' claim he speaks for them is Trumpian. NNadir Mar 2020 #63

I've actually defended young people Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #68

Well, I feel that we have let your generation, and all future generations down. NNadir Mar 2020 #69

We got McGovern because of ratfucking by Segretti, Liddy and other members of CREEP. progressoid Mar 2020 #64

I agree. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #67

We would do well if they showed up today like they did in 72. progressoid Mar 2020 #70

Thanks for the chart. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #71

Clearly young voters did turn up in '72 denem Mar 2020 #73

Yes, you're right. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #78

A haunting lyric from that time denem Mar 2020 #82

Check out this article from NYT regarding suppression of the student vote. diva77 Mar 2020 #84

Imma disagree... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #2

Perhaps. It just seems like, since then, he's been on cruise control. SKKY Mar 2020 #5

I think he is doing exactly what he has to. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #25

Yup. He's been the recipient of fear-based voting frankly. There's plenty of good reason for KPN Mar 2020 #26

No Biden has NOT .. that's just your opinion. Cha Mar 2020 #32

OK. It is my opinion. I'm comfortable with it and KPN Mar 2020 #36

So is Joe Biden with the Coalitions he has built. Cha Mar 2020 #37

No.. there's been no "cruise control" as you say for Joe Biden.. Cha Mar 2020 #31

Sanders has made a substantial positive impact KPN Mar 2020 #38

I disagree. Cha Mar 2020 #40

I agree, Cha PJMcK Mar 2020 #53

Thank you, PJMcK! Cha Mar 2020 #55

If that were true... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #52

Yep PJMcK Mar 2020 #56

I've seen zero positives Aquaria Mar 2020 #80

I don't give two fucks about the platform which has no chance of becoming law...unless we win. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #87

That Depends, Sir, On How The Rivals Conduct Themselves The Magistrate Mar 2020 #6

Talk about bile. Yechhh! KPN Mar 2020 #39

Accurate Observation, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #44

Mmmhmmmm. KPN Mar 2020 #45

Young Fellas Oughtn't Smoke Cigars, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #48

Bwahaha, Sir. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #54

Oh my. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #58

Oh, I have missed you! Maeve Mar 2020 #61

Awesome Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #74

Is there even one BS supporter Aquaria Mar 2020 #81

Exactly.. Thank you for that, TM. Cha Mar 2020 #41

Amazing he stayed in the race with MSM bashing him, accused of racism, sexism, corruption via emmaverybo Mar 2020 #8

Blow after blow ucrdem Mar 2020 #21

I know right! But now Biden Cha Mar 2020 #33

Bashing him Aquaria Mar 2020 #83

I was talking about Biden. I think MSM Bernie a kind of darling. He was definitely the more emmaverybo Mar 2020 #85

Hillary and Obama were both Democrats treestar Mar 2020 #10

Solid point. SKKY Mar 2020 #15

I am actually very glad that Democratic voters... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #13

Wow! Obama won only because of GW?! KPN Mar 2020 #42

I said "largely". Sloumeau Mar 2020 #46

Not necessary. Largely's close enough for me. KPN Mar 2020 #47

Bernie's "go to" pathway is to attack and bloody his opponents NCProgressive Mar 2020 #14

Making it look easy is the hard part. ucrdem Mar 2020 #17

He did. And I hope he does it again in November. SKKY Mar 2020 #22

I think Jill will make sure he doesn't rest on his laurels. ucrdem Mar 2020 #24

I'm sure you're not. But the primary field was too big, plus factor in Trump fear. kcr Mar 2020 #18

True. SKKY Mar 2020 #35

We've had 11 prime-time debates and 31 primary contests so far frazzled Mar 2020 #20

Stop it! Wishing that Joe Biden had been smeared more? Ridiculous! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #27

Thank you, Jackie! I can't Even! Cha Mar 2020 #34

dementia/alzheimers sheshe2 Mar 2020 #59

I feel like you are too. Because the rest of us want to be fighting Filthy Donnie. Squinch Mar 2020 #28

******* BINGO! Cha Mar 2020 #49

I think 2008 was different.... Blasphemer Mar 2020 #29

I never saw it that clearly. And if McCain had chosen a legit... SKKY Mar 2020 #43

McCain was already solidly trailing BidenBacker Mar 2020 #50

That is not true...we were lucky that Clinton (both of them really) got all in with Obama in the , Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #30

I wish Bernie was much more competitive and more aggressive (in the Republican Party) Doodley Mar 2020 #51

We don't need to supe up the primaries for better "reality TV". Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #57

Totally missing my point. This has nothing to do with "reality TV". Zero. SKKY Mar 2020 #62

I feel the same as you.... VarryOn Mar 2020 #60

I'm a Biden supporter who wishes Bernie had not run in the first place. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #65

Fair enough. I was never a Sanders "fan" either, although I would have have happily... SKKY Mar 2020 #66

I'm with you Bucky Mar 2020 #72

I think his heart just wasn't in knocking the sh#t out of fifteen friends and younger colleagues. ucrdem Mar 2020 #75

There's also the argument that a close race keeps people interested and results in more people PoliticAverse Mar 2020 #76

With Sanders self-marketing as a Socialist and praising Fidel Zambero Mar 2020 #77

Uh, no. Aquaria Mar 2020 #79

Thank you for explaining that, Aquaria Cha Mar 2020 #86