Democratic Primaries

ucrdem

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13. Castro was a mistake but coronavirus was waiting in the wings

Thu Mar 19, 2020, 02:55 PM

Mar 2020

and that was the coup de grâce. The electorate collectively decided to get on with it and Biden is the guy who can do that. I don't think socialism was a decisive factor and even Trump is talking about $1 trillion in public relief so we're primed for massive new social spending at least.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie just plain F'd up. [View all] garybeck Mar 2020 OP

He did not accept that label. He EMBRACED it. MineralMan Mar 2020 #1

yes, i said exactly that. and that was his downfall. n't garybeck Mar 2020 #2

The word "accepted" is ambiguous enough to suggest that the label was thrust upon him by others... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #8

Do you really think that is Bernie's only problem?? Mars and Minerva Mar 2020 #10

Telling the TRUTH was his downfall? Interesting take. Hortensis Mar 2020 #46

Agree, it wasn't a "label" that doomed him, radius777 Mar 2020 #56

universal health care did not help Italy AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #77

Italy has a good healthcare system. Our party is COMMITTED Hortensis Mar 2020 #80

He Began With It, Sir --- No One Pinned It On Him The Magistrate Mar 2020 #3

that's not the point garybeck Mar 2020 #9

It Is Part Of His Identity, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #16

True that. ucrdem Mar 2020 #22

New England Is An Odd Duck, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #25

Nicely done! ucrdem Mar 2020 #29

So good to see you back, sir, with your finely toned rhetoric and GoneOffShore Mar 2020 #33

Too much socialist oppo on him to deny it. In less than a... brush Mar 2020 #61

Yep, and the repugs have tons of oppo on him they're just... brush Mar 2020 #59

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #60

By the time he decided to run for president, it was way too late, there were too many examples sop Mar 2020 #4

Very astute observations. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5

He Can't Admit Making A Mistake, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #11

He should have dumped the label -- I've been saying that for years. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #6

Yeah, that ".. no one can stop me.. " didn't Cha Mar 2020 #63

Social democrat is better dawg day Mar 2020 #7

agree. garybeck Mar 2020 #14

True, but he doesn't want to be identified as a Democrat. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #37

Most labels should be dropped frazzled Mar 2020 #12

Moderate and moderate Democrat aren't even the same thing. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #38

The corporate bugaboo is especially nutty Aquaria Mar 2020 #48

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #57

Castro was a mistake but coronavirus was waiting in the wings ucrdem Mar 2020 #13

We've been in chaos mode for years now Aquaria Mar 2020 #49

I Think There are Several Reasons that Keep Bernie From Winning The Nomination That Have Nothing to Indykatie Mar 2020 #58

Truth. So many negatives, it's amazing he got as far as he did. ucrdem Mar 2020 #64

Bernie Sanders is an astute politician ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #15

It's an essential part of his identity and his appeal dalton99a Mar 2020 #17

not really. i live in vermont garybeck Mar 2020 #23

He needs to end it SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #18

He is who he is. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #19

The best title to use is Democrat. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #20

I think the last straw was "coming for the Democratic Establishment" LakeArenal Mar 2020 #21

Bernie is a socialist, not a Democrat, Progressive dog Mar 2020 #24

He never should have accepted the "socialist" label. left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #26

He wants to be the grumpy, set outlier and then demands everyone conform to him. That is why he was LizBeth Mar 2020 #27

Right wingers weaponize labels to mock, misrepresent, and marginalize Shermann Mar 2020 #28

He did not play by the rules NCProgressive Mar 2020 #30

by june, I wonder if socialism would still give people the same bad taste it did before. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #31

Murica is not ready to understand progressive issues. That simple. And they are, that simple. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #32

Ugh!!! mac2766 Mar 2020 #34

*sigh* nolawarlock Mar 2020 #47

Go out in the real world Aquaria Mar 2020 #50

Agreed! Universal care goes way back to Roosevelt even... brush Mar 2020 #65

If Recollection Serves, Sir, It Was The Old 'Iron Chancelloe' Put In Place The First One The Magistrate Mar 2020 #71

Thanks, and perhaps where Teddy Roosevelt got it from... brush Mar 2020 #72

No. betsuni Mar 2020 #54

Thanks for this, for explaining the real deal origins of these issues. brush Mar 2020 #66

Problematic personally, not widely appealing. Weak AA support. Never struck larger themes emmaverybo Mar 2020 #35

So very true DownriverDem Mar 2020 #36

Should have never hijacked the Democratic primaries, twice, while retaining the I affiliation question everything Mar 2020 #39

Ezactly! And, that's not all he shouldn't have done. Cha Mar 2020 #41

Yes he embraced it.. and that's not all he shouldn't have done. Cha Mar 2020 #40

He could have remained a democrat. But nope. boston bean Mar 2020 #42

Yes, what is with the constant switching back to (I)? brush Mar 2020 #67

He has to say: "Sit down for 10 minutes and I'll explain". JohnnyRingo Mar 2020 #43

Branding Roy Rolling Mar 2020 #44

when a pony has one trick, it tends to keep doing it Skittles Mar 2020 #45

An old one Aquaria Mar 2020 #51

oh I think old folk can learn new tricks Skittles Mar 2020 #52

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #55

Heeheehee! You are bad. brush Mar 2020 #68

one correct badass Skittles Mar 2020 #70

50 years of red baiting propaganda is hard to ocercome. rampartc Mar 2020 #53

I'd argue the opposite dansolo Mar 2020 #62

So true. America will not elect a socialist, even if... brush Mar 2020 #69

I am glad that sanders will not be the nominee Gothmog Mar 2020 #73

sanders sent Cynthia Nixon to Florida to deal with Castro issue??? Gothmog Mar 2020 #74

Bernie was so sure he was going to beat Biden that he campaigned in Klobouchar and Warren's states Gothmog Mar 2020 #75

His intentions were good? That is why he hired such divisive people as Gray, Sirota, and Turner still_one Mar 2020 #76

He's a terrible, one trick pony (anger), front man for a poorly packaged/designed product. gulliver Mar 2020 #78

It seems that even the sanders have realized that Sirota is toxic Gothmog Mar 2020 #79

How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #81