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In reply to the discussion: Rec if you think the 25th should be invoked IMMEDIATELY. [View all]ADK
(83 posts)146. I don't think it's possible to remove him immediately.
The process is set forth in Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
As much as he should be removed, the reality is he will be out of office before the process can be completed. The only way he leaves early is if he gets a quid pro quo from Pence, i.e., pardons for Trump and his family. Id rather he stay if that is the price. I want him locked up.
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It would keep him preoccupied. If we need to be faster with that we can do it.
Pauldg47
Jan 2021
#13
It's immediate as soon as Pence and the majority of the cabinet send a letter to Pelosi and McConnel
Klaralven
Jan 2021
#48
It Trump attempt to resume the Presidency, Pence and Cabinet majority send another letter
Klaralven
Jan 2021
#62
It's effective as soon as the signatures are delivered to the President Pro Tempore and the Speaker
Renew Deal
Jan 2021
#33
An emergency 25th. No waiting period. Or imprisonment in a room in the WH. No access to media of
judesedit
Jan 2021
#11
Maybe it's all a manufactured distraction from pending litigation post-Jan 20
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2021
#20
Well 93 Senators just voted against the election challenge, so things have changed.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2021
#29
Yes, but voting to not overturn the election & voting to remove Trump are different things
AdamGG
Jan 2021
#40
There better not be a possibility of a pardon for Trump if this happens...
Chakaconcarne
Jan 2021
#143
Only if there aren't enough Republican Senators who would vote to convict Trump for abuse of power.
LudwigPastorius
Jan 2021
#58
Yes, immediately, then impeached with the new Congress so he can never hold office
Victory at Yorktown
Jan 2021
#77
We are in danger--not just because of a madman and his ability to further harm us, but
BusyBeingBest
Jan 2021
#113
ONLY if Pence cannot pardon someone declared disabled. Otherwise, we can deal with him.
ancianita
Jan 2021
#116
25th immediately. Then House impeach. Then Senate remove. Then indict. Then convict. Then imprison.
robertpaulsen
Jan 2021
#127
I'd much prefer impeachment, but the 25th can be virtually instantaneous.
BobTheSubgenius
Jan 2021
#151