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Wounded Bear

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12. One of the hardest things to do in history is to pick a "starting point"....

Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:41 PM

Oct 2023

History is a continuum.

Some people like to point at post WWI, when England and France divvied up the Middle East after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in order to guarantee access to ME oil, which was rapidly replacing the coal based economy of the 19th Century. Others go farther back.

There's always an event at some point that seems to lead to where we are now. Hell, go back to the Crusades when it was Christian vs Muslims and the Jews were sidelined by both sides. Nobody has any answers, just more "Kill the Infidel" from both sides who are often acting as proxies for power brokers.

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History of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict [View all] Picaro Oct 2023 OP

You do realize Lithos Oct 2023 #1

Yeah, like I'm supposed to trust Bibi here? Nope. Just like I wouldn't trust Trump if something ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #5

Starting at 1947? lol WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #2

Don't you know? Nothing happend before WWII. ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #6

600 A.D. would be a good starting point. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 #3

Yup. I always ask people who say it's all Arab land to explain to me why Marius25 Oct 2023 #7

Oddly enough earlier period was essentially Jews against Jews. haele Oct 2023 #10

There is a lot left out of that chronicle, including the convenient starting point. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #4

All the souls on both sides who are suffering had nothing to do with the original conflict randr Oct 2023 #8

In 1947... lapucelle Oct 2023 #9

Nobody thinks of the poor old Ottoman Empire anymore. Torchlight Oct 2023 #11

One of the hardest things to do in history is to pick a "starting point".... Wounded Bear Oct 2023 #12

What a joke of an article. Mosby Oct 2023 #13

Just to broaden this out a bit... WarGamer Oct 2023 #14