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Amishman

(5,845 posts)
32. Based on the numerous Pubs I have in my extended family, I do not agree
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 04:42 PM
Mar 2024

I live in a red, rural part of PA. My wife's family is mostly Republican with a sprinkling of indies and libertarians. My wife and I are literally the only Democrats at family gatherings (which are frequent and huge).

Other than two older men and one woman (remember, big family) on that side, I don't think they are racist or misogynist.

Quite a few don't really like Trump very much, but will vote for him again.

Why? Because they simply do not want what we are selling.

○ The EPA and environmental rules are really disliked. I still regularly hear people ranting about CARB gas cans, the design changes mandated for new wood stoves, 2.5 GPM faucets, stormwater management environmental rules, and urea systems on diesels.

○ Gun safety, particularly bolder proposals involving bans and/or mandatory buybacks, is a non-starter for quite a few of them.

○ Any non-binary view of gender is viewed as mental illness.

○ Lots of skepticism towards taxes and spending, and generally viewing government as incompetent. Just about anything that involves expanding the role of government is viewed as wasteful and wasting their money. There is a general (shortsighted) attitude that they just want government (especially at the federal level) to leave them alone.

○ Abortion isn't that important one way or the other with those I know, but I kind of suspect this is not typical.

Add that all up, and even if they don't like Trump - they don't like many things we are offering even more.

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And these low-lifes are continuing to take over due to normalcy bias Otto_Harper Mar 2024 #1
Thank you JustAnotherGen Mar 2024 #2
Not entirely. Lots of people are simply partisan voters. They don't care who their nominee is. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #3
See below... PCIntern Mar 2024 #5
This is my opinion, as well. Long-standing Republicans are going to vote Republican no matter what. Earth-shine Mar 2024 #14
Same here, but one exception: I voted for Bloomberg in 2005 Polybius Mar 2024 #48
Okay, if we must confess. A few years ago I voted for a Republican Sheriff over the Democrat. Earth-shine Mar 2024 #50
You need to add Democrat-hater to that list. barbaraann Mar 2024 #4
Hate is what moves these people PCIntern Mar 2024 #7
Yes, they are hate-filled. barbaraann Mar 2024 #11
This was the allure, and indeed the very business model robbob Mar 2024 #25
Exactly! mountain grammy Mar 2024 #40
Yes, sadly, at least 40% of Americans are "deplorable". Funtatlaguy Mar 2024 #6
To quote Malcolm X mobeau69 Mar 2024 #8
He was wrong Nasruddin Mar 2024 #34
I think it has a lot to do with hatred of "Liberals and Elite" because they think we think they are stupid Nictuku Mar 2024 #9
That's what I've always said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2024 #10
He's made it okay to hate openly again. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2024 #12
The Tea-hadists want to destroy taxation and the regulatory agencies Model35mech Mar 2024 #13
All those things you mentioned are true and PCIntern Mar 2024 #15
Wish we could I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2024 #37
Right again!! PCIntern Mar 2024 #39
I can verify that as fact. My family is full of them. Misogynists and white supremacists. CousinIT Mar 2024 #16
I believe it's all about 'owning the libs'. beaglelover Mar 2024 #17
And that soldierant Mar 2024 #42
TRUTH!!!! onecaliberal Mar 2024 #18
I've spent my whole life being pulled back and forth. Mr.Bee Mar 2024 #19
You're so right. TakeItEasy Mar 2024 #20
It's an Embarrassing and Humiliating time to be an American Mr.Bee Mar 2024 #36
Yep. It is the Party of Hate. dalton99a Mar 2024 #21
My husband says that Bettie Mar 2024 #22
He's identifying groups to blame for Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2024 #24
MAGA hates blacks, Jews, women, gays, immigrants, and non Christians. All of them. SoFlaBro Mar 2024 #26
Hate is probably the greatest motivator... and they hate alot of things associated with Democrats. honest.abe Mar 2024 #27
He could lose bdamomma Mar 2024 #43
Yes. ismnotwasm Mar 2024 #28
I Agree But... HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 2024 #29
Well let us know how taking it to their online spaces works out for you... Hekate Mar 2024 #31
I've Tried HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 2024 #45
Maybe its Subjugation? earth2jim Mar 2024 #30
Because they believe I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2024 #38
Based on the numerous Pubs I have in my extended family, I do not agree Amishman Mar 2024 #32
fine, but why trump? The most deplorable troll on the planet. Why him? ecstatic Mar 2024 #44
You're viewing them from our perspective Amishman Mar 2024 #53
Yikes. ecstatic Mar 2024 #55
food and alcohol helps Amishman Mar 2024 #57
These people won't come to terms with what they turned into Warpy Mar 2024 #33
There is another faction of Tr*mp supporters Alice Kramden Mar 2024 #35
TSF and supporters all hate the same people. That was pretty clear since TSF never offered much in policy. nt TeamProg Mar 2024 #41
Trump supporters have an authoritarian morality, says formerly rightwing writer/podcaster Matthew Sheffield. summer_in_TX Mar 2024 #46
Please, please, please don't let me read the replies only to find a bunch of not-all-white-people bullshit. Iggo Mar 2024 #47
As I say frequently to anyone who will listen, we have GOT to speak up and often. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #49
I agree. Were my father and my cousin alive, they'd be strongly supporting no_hypocrisy Mar 2024 #51
Democrats and liberals know this. betsuni Mar 2024 #52
You're right about one thing for sure. Trump would never get elected if the WWll generation ........... jaxexpat Mar 2024 #54
Trump called fallen soldiers losers and fools. Emile Mar 2024 #56
Add xenophobic for the full monty happy feet Mar 2024 #58
When he used the term rapists and murderers wolfie001 Mar 2024 #59
Don't understand "white NFL quarterbacks are idolized way beyond their relative capabilities" toad-eye Mar 2024 #60
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