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In reply to the discussion: I believe that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives need to face the absolute fact [View all]summer_in_TX
(3,326 posts)46. Trump supporters have an authoritarian morality, says formerly rightwing writer/podcaster Matthew Sheffield.
Sheffield worked for years in conservative media, but grew disillusioned. He brings insights into the origins and workings of the different reality that those of us on the left are so baffled by.
https://plus.flux.community/p/trump-supporters-are-almost-impossible?
Trump super fans are impossible to argue with because they dont actually believe in logic
The far-right worldview is incomprehensible until you realize that devotees believe truth flows from authority rather than reality
The far-right worldview is incomprehensible until you realize that devotees believe truth flows from authority rather than reality
The roots of authoritarian morality extend deep into human history. Many ancient civilizations operated under theocratic or monarchic systems where rulers were seen as divinely appointed or even incarnations of deity. These systems established a precedent where the rulers will was equated with moral rightness, a moral order centered around authority and obedience.
As humanity progressed scientifically and cognitively, the principles of authoritarianism remained attractive for many people. Its ideas provide simple and clear directives for social and political order: Loyalty and submission to the leader are paramount, and the leaders actions are inherently justified by virtue of his/her position.
Submitting to authority figures had particular appeal to many early and medieval Christian fundamentalists who devised the moral argument known today as divine command theory, the idea that all morality is determined by God alone; anything God says is right.
Other moral viewpoints can exist, but if they are found to be in conflict with divine will, then they are by definition immoral or incorrect, even if science, history or other scholarship may support them.
As humanity progressed scientifically and cognitively, the principles of authoritarianism remained attractive for many people. Its ideas provide simple and clear directives for social and political order: Loyalty and submission to the leader are paramount, and the leaders actions are inherently justified by virtue of his/her position.
Submitting to authority figures had particular appeal to many early and medieval Christian fundamentalists who devised the moral argument known today as divine command theory, the idea that all morality is determined by God alone; anything God says is right.
Other moral viewpoints can exist, but if they are found to be in conflict with divine will, then they are by definition immoral or incorrect, even if science, history or other scholarship may support them.
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The moral hierarchy of authoritarianism operates on the principle of loyalty and obedience. Supporters are expected to align themselves with the leader and the movements goals, viewing dissent or criticism as moral failings
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I believe that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives need to face the absolute fact [View all]
PCIntern
Mar 2024
OP
Not entirely. Lots of people are simply partisan voters. They don't care who their nominee is.
TwilightZone
Mar 2024
#3
This is my opinion, as well. Long-standing Republicans are going to vote Republican no matter what.
Earth-shine
Mar 2024
#14
Okay, if we must confess. A few years ago I voted for a Republican Sheriff over the Democrat.
Earth-shine
Mar 2024
#50
I think it has a lot to do with hatred of "Liberals and Elite" because they think we think they are stupid
Nictuku
Mar 2024
#9
I can verify that as fact. My family is full of them. Misogynists and white supremacists.
CousinIT
Mar 2024
#16
MAGA hates blacks, Jews, women, gays, immigrants, and non Christians. All of them.
SoFlaBro
Mar 2024
#26
Hate is probably the greatest motivator... and they hate alot of things associated with Democrats.
honest.abe
Mar 2024
#27
TSF and supporters all hate the same people. That was pretty clear since TSF never offered much in policy. nt
TeamProg
Mar 2024
#41
Trump supporters have an authoritarian morality, says formerly rightwing writer/podcaster Matthew Sheffield.
summer_in_TX
Mar 2024
#46
Please, please, please don't let me read the replies only to find a bunch of not-all-white-people bullshit.
Iggo
Mar 2024
#47
As I say frequently to anyone who will listen, we have GOT to speak up and often.
flying_wahini
Mar 2024
#49
I agree. Were my father and my cousin alive, they'd be strongly supporting
no_hypocrisy
Mar 2024
#51