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(16,029 posts) Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:26 AM Tuesday

Exploding pagers injure hundreds in attack targeting Hezbollah members, Lebanese security source says [View all]

Updated 11:14 AM EDT, Tue September 17, 2024

CNN
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Hundreds of people were injured Tuesday in an attack targeting the pagers of Hezbollah members, a Lebanese security source told CNN, with state media reporting that dozens of members of the militant group were wounded.

Iran’s Ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was among those injured in Beirut, according to Iranian state media. He has a superficial injury and is currently under observation in the hospital, state media IRNA reported, citing his wife.

Lebanon’s Ministry of Health has urged citizens who possess pagers to discard them and warned hospitals to be on “high alert.”

State media NNA reported that “hacked” pager devices exploded in the towns of Ali Al-Nahri and Riyaq in Lebanon’s central Beqaa valley, resulting in a significant number of injuries. The locations are Hezbollah strongholds.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/17/middleeast/lebanon-hezbollah-pagers-explosions-intl/index.html

Question: just how in the world is Israel blowing up pagers of all things? Rechargeable batteries?

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Exploding pagers injure hundreds in attack targeting Hezbollah members, Lebanese security source says [View all] LiberalArkie Tuesday OP

THAT IS AWESOME (nt) Darwins_Retriever Tuesday #1

Next they go after their fax machines and Blackberries. Sneederbunk Tuesday #103

Turns out, you weren't that far off! Walkie-talkies for the win. nt Maru Kitteh 17 hrs ago #246

Kids and pets got hurt. JackSabbath Tuesday #109

Or might as well let them blow up Israelis, because that's really their raison d'etre elias7 Tuesday #142

Oh noes! Not the kids! Not the pets! Beastly Boy Tuesday #182

Really? 3Hotdogs Tuesday #213

Similar to plot line of Kingsman movie? Bmoboy Tuesday #2

Note to self: Don't put my pager or cell phone in my front pants pocket. 🔥 🌰🌰 🔥 TheBlackAdder Tuesday #129

I'm in trouble already.... sdfernando Tuesday #203

And remarkably resembling the just leaked Mossad tapes of the operation. Rockets and all: Beastly Boy Tuesday #184

They are blowing them up with the space lasers, of course sarisataka Tuesday #3

Nope. It's not targeting civilians. However, Hezbollah is not the government of Lebanon. haele Tuesday #12

We already have people defending Hezbollah and saying this is a war crime sarisataka Tuesday #14

Certain folks sure do seem to get upset when Israel gets in the way of their Hezbollah/Hamas buddies.... tritsofme Tuesday #23

That's because most people who don't know average people from that area think black and white. haele Tuesday #61

Thanks, Haele. Very interesting, and substantive. Hekate Tuesday #53

More info coming in jmbar2 Tuesday #63

Hezbollah has been part of the lebanese government since 1992. Mosby Tuesday #72

The question is: does the government of the sovereign state of lebanon have Hezbollah's permission Beastly Boy Tuesday #185

Duh BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #41

Pretty brilliant... jmbar2 Tuesday #4

They weren't targeted to just "bad guys" onandup Tuesday #13

That's on Hizbollah BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #46

And whose fault would that be? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #106

Israel is responsible, as far as we know onandup Tuesday #116

Israel is responsible? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #121

"as far as we know" onandup Tuesday #132

As far as who knows? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #134

What happens when someone initiates a war? Israel did not initiate this war. When Germany... Hekate Tuesday #165

No one is credibly threatening the existence of Israel. onandup Tuesday #204

But they are firing rockets that hit Israeli schools thucythucy Tuesday #206

Alas, that is exactly what the slogan "From the river to the sea" means. It means to do what was done in 1492... Hekate Tuesday #207

It has different meanings, depending on the speaker and context onandup Tuesday #210

No, it does not, unless a person is one of those idiot US protestors who doesn't know what company they keep Hekate Tuesday #212

Rashida Tlaib considers it an aspirational call onandup Tuesday #218

Nice. But in this case, Rashida is blowing smoke. Hekate Tuesday #219

Bibi's Likud party has it's own version onandup Tuesday #220

Change the goalposts Hekate Tuesday #221

I notice you never answered my question. thucythucy Tuesday #229

I don't subscribe to your framing every Israeli action as "defending" itself onandup 19 hrs ago #243

You are indeed misunderstanding. No, not every action taken by Israel is automatically justified in my mind. thucythucy 19 hrs ago #244

Simply put onandup 17 hrs ago #245

Oh, FFS. How much more targeted can you get than the specific personal pagers wnylib Tuesday #216

Source, please? Beastly Boy Tuesday #189

Yeah, how cool would it be if.... JackSabbath Tuesday #120

And I'm guessing you live in a country with oceans on 2 sides, Canada to the North and Mexico to the South elias7 Tuesday #145

What kind of incompetent terrorist would leave his Nasrallah issued pager in a child's room? Beastly Boy Tuesday #196

But doctors & nurses were injured too womanofthehills Tuesday #135

It wasn't the Ukrainian Amb., MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #138

Excellent question sarisataka Tuesday #149

Don't think I'll take that bet, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #157

Narrator: "It went unanswered." notroot Tuesday #179

Are you going to correct this false info? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #150

Narrator: "They were not going to correct the false info." notroot Tuesday #180

I found this. Moosepoop Tuesday #5

I thought the lithium but I remembered the pager I used to carry ran about 3 months on a AAA battery LiberalArkie Tuesday #6

The battery as the explosive is extremely unlikely when comparing against the videos coming out Amishman Tuesday #10

Completely Agree ProfessorGAC Tuesday #16

Well, that's not really true. It depends on the sheathing... mikelewis Tuesday #18

Even with a casing - using the battery like a pipe bomb - you'd still have pyrotechnics Amishman Tuesday #34

Oh... I don't remotely think Israel is behind this at all... mikelewis Tuesday #74

"less conspiratorial" JoseBalow Tuesday #77

Or a donation from Iran or Russia more likely. mikelewis Tuesday #83

They're using pagers because Israel has already hacked their cell phones. marybourg Tuesday #78

Merci Mme. Defarge Tuesday #31

8 dead 2,750 injured rollin74 Tuesday #7

Note to self HAB911 Tuesday #8

Yes... a cell phone battery can explode in the same manner. It's not likely but they can... mikelewis Tuesday #21

If Israel can do pagers HAB911 Tuesday #25

That's really a big if... while a clandestine attack like that is movie quality... mikelewis Tuesday #30

Theoretically... BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #84

You betcha, says the techie across the breakfast table from me... Hekate Tuesday #91

Yes, I'm afraid when and if it hits the fan HAB911 Tuesday #99

. TheProle Tuesday #9

8 dead 2800 injured Johnny2X2X Tuesday #11

There are rules of War concerning blowing up pagers? EX500rider Tuesday #81

Which has killed more nearby civilians? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #89

I think you'll find most people have no problem with giving exploding pagers to terrorists EX500rider Tuesday #92

So you don't think it's okay to supply exploding pagers to terrorists which is what they did? EX500rider Tuesday #144

Israel (and seemingly no one else either) never ratified the Safe Pagers for Terrorists TheKentuckian Tuesday #169

According to whom? Beastly Boy Tuesday #194

This could be a prelude to a larger operation. Mosby Tuesday #15

Disrupting the enemy C3 is a good way to start an operation sarisataka Tuesday #17

It may also be the cell phone companies ensuring that pagers never rise again... you just never know... mikelewis Tuesday #35

Is this satire? JoseBalow Tuesday #87

No... it's just I saw no reason to immediately assume Israel was behind the attack... mikelewis Tuesday #97

It is likely retaliation BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #50

Is that an exploding pager in your pants or are you just happy to see me? PeaceWave Tuesday #19

This was a terror attack Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20

Are terrorists civilians sarisataka Tuesday #22

Women and children were killed and maimed. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #26

Since Hezbollah is already firing rockets sarisataka Tuesday #27

I guess freedom fighters are civilians and can't commit war crimes. nt LexVegas Tuesday #28

You think school children are legit targets for either side? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #29

What fraction? former9thward Tuesday #39

Of course school children are not legitimate targets sarisataka Tuesday #43

Horseshit Johnny2X2X Tuesday #71

I did not claim you hold that position sarisataka Tuesday #94

They get proportional attention Johnny2X2X Tuesday #100

Right, but don't forget that Israel has no beef with Lebanon. This is all on them. elias7 Tuesday #146

Proportional, that is a word sarisataka Tuesday #154

Are you waiting for the freedom fighters to verify the numbers? nt LexVegas Tuesday #44

There are no freedom fighters Johnny2X2X Tuesday #55

"There are no freedom fighters"...So Hezbollah is a gardening club? Coventina Tuesday #60

Hezbollah is a terorist organization Johnny2X2X Tuesday #66

GMAFB Coventina Tuesday #70

You seem to know more about this than anyone newdeal2 Tuesday #62

Do you have a link to support that claim? sarisataka Tuesday #98

I am confused. Are you saying ISRAELIS "distributed boxes of pagers" ? Did you miss the part... Hekate Tuesday #171

And do you think the terrorists will tell you how many terrorists die compared to civilians? EX500rider Tuesday #85

Really? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #110

What utter bullshit. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #190

They were encrypted pagers used by Hezbollah Mosby Tuesday #37

Heh BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #52

Given the number of Hezbollah agents maimed Amishman Tuesday #166

It was a counter-terror operation BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #51

Precisely targeting the communications network of an opposing militia is not a terror attack. mathematic Tuesday #147

They better check the fax machines now newdeal2 Tuesday #24

And then Walkman and MP3 players Otto_Harper Tuesday #101

Terrorists officially terrorized. Brilliant. Bonx Tuesday #32

Pager blasts also reported now in Syria DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #33

Seriously... it could just a major run of poorly engineered lithium batteries... mikelewis Tuesday #42

Why would they all fail at the same time? Mosby Tuesday #47

Physics... mikelewis Tuesday #58

Which cannot and will not Otto_Harper Tuesday #105

That's not sufficient to explain Disaffected Tuesday #118

They all exploded simultaneously Mosby Tuesday #137

Absolutely, I have inside information Otto_Harper Tuesday #224

With the information at this time, it would appear not. DJ Synikus Makisimus Yesterday #239

Hezbollah bought a new batch of pagers 3 months ago. Mosby Tuesday #45

The evidence so far suggests that Hezbollah weren't the only ones DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #57

The evidence so far suggests they were. Beastly Boy Tuesday #199

Your source for this information? DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #186

Obviously those were allies of Hezbollah EX500rider Tuesday #230

Seems to me that very little is obvious in war, DJ Synikus Makisimus Yesterday #238

Despite the boo hooing from people who hate Israel BannonsLiver Tuesday #36

In other news, people still use pagers... Shipwack Tuesday #38

Well... think about it... mikelewis Tuesday #48

They thought they could be stealthier with low-tech -nt Bonx Tuesday #49

Pagers may not have GPS built in like cell phones Bmoboy Tuesday #54

No two way messages to intercept and read hack89 Tuesday #79

Absolutely beautiful BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #40

Novel approach misanthrope Tuesday #56

Does this date have any significance to anyone in the region? DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #59

Hard to hide that you belong to the terrorist group if you have an exploding pager. Bev54 Tuesday #64

Great job de-escalating things Joe TheRealNorth Tuesday #65

What does Joe have to do with this? newdeal2 Tuesday #68

Don't you know? He's the King of the Middle East! Coventina Tuesday #73

Wanna hear something crazy... mikelewis Tuesday #80

Joe? mcar Tuesday #75

You really think a lot of civilians are using encrypted Hezbollah pagers? EX500rider Tuesday #88

A gratuitous and nonsense pot-shot at a Democratic president? Shocking! tritsofme Tuesday #90

It's Biden's fault? sarisataka Tuesday #102

This might make you feel better BannonsLiver Tuesday #111

What? Hekate Tuesday #175

Stuxnet redux? Brother Buzz Tuesday #67

Yeah, I had a similar reaction. DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #86

Taiwan i read EX500rider Tuesday #231

They are a major chip manufacturer Brother Buzz Tuesday #233

What if someone had been in a plane? Or driving? nolabear Tuesday #69

You should have your pager off while flying. n/t Coventina Tuesday #95

Has Trump taken credit for this yet? RussBLib Tuesday #76

He showed Abdul a photo of his pager newdeal2 Tuesday #82

Ok... so this is interesting. Apparently the pagers were pinged just before exploding... that changes things... mikelewis Tuesday #93

Eliminating terrorist is a "dirty deed"? TheKentuckian Tuesday #187

Not only off the rails, but over the cliff also. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #191

If only there was some way to make nuclear centrifuges Arne Tuesday #96

Well here's hoping Hezbollah never sends members here FullySupportDems Tuesday #104

Please provide the link to the rule of war that says enemy communications are an illegitimate target. Coventina Tuesday #108

Sure, like I said, any civilian anywhere as policy? FullySupportDems Tuesday #122

Please provide the link that states attacks on communications are illegal. Coventina Tuesday #124

How many civilians were actually killed? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #125

I don't understand your question FullySupportDems Tuesday #128

..... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #131

I'll have to look, I thought it was reported everywhere FullySupportDems Tuesday #152

Looks like someone else found a source FullySupportDems Tuesday #155

My opinion would be that those deaths would be on the terrorist org., Hizbollah, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #156

I understand no one has taken credit for blowing up the pagers FullySupportDems Tuesday #223

You don't know crap about waging war do you? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #114

I don't know crap about waging war? FullySupportDems Tuesday #127

Thanks for proving my point. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #130

No, it is Not FullySupportDems Tuesday #140

Again, you proved my point. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #141

Well then 'splain it to me what who says he's a FullySupportDems Tuesday #160

.... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #162

I think you don't have an answer FullySupportDems Tuesday #167

I think you are ignorant past belief if you don't recognize that DU's veterans have knowledge & experience... Hekate Tuesday #178

I AM a DU veteran FullySupportDems Tuesday #226

Welcome to DU, my apologies for neglecting to extend that before sarisataka Tuesday #168

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #172

I will try to be respectful FullySupportDems Tuesday #174

So just out of curiosity, what did your decade of Air Force experience involve that meant you... Hekate Tuesday #205

Well, I learned that after WW2 there was a trial FullySupportDems Tuesday #232

I may disagree with you on this issue, MarineCombatEngineer 12 hrs ago #247

I appreciate that, right back at ya FullySupportDems 11 hrs ago #248

Thank you MarineCombatEngineer 11 hrs ago #249

I think you're right FullySupportDems 11 hrs ago #250

Attacking an enemy's communications systems is not at all debatable, sarisataka Tuesday #158

Great question. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #163

The more I read this poster in this thread... Hekate Tuesday #192

Or you could simply ask FullySupportDems Tuesday #235

It sounds like it's okay if it's only a few civilians maybe? FullySupportDems Tuesday #170

You didn't answer my question why you are drastically inflating numbers sarisataka Tuesday #173

And so far We're Geting Crickets from your excellent Cha Tuesday #202

Sorry I missed this one FullySupportDems Tuesday #236

There are no Hezbollah members in America ?? Israeli Tuesday #143

Are you an acceptable target if you get on a plane with one FullySupportDems Tuesday #164

This operation was as closely targeted as it is possible to be. And as has been pointed out... Hekate Tuesday #195

But they are not in a declared war are they? FullySupportDems Yesterday #237

You do realize Hezbollah has been actively attacking Israel since October 8, don't you? elias7 Yesterday #240

Three or four people in this thread don't know it & don't believe it regardless Hekate Yesterday #241

Mischaracterizing the situation isn't helpful FullySupportDems Yesterday #242

Way to completely misunderstand the whole discussion Hekate Tuesday #177

Pro terrorist accounts all over social media melting over this. Ace Rothstein Tuesday #107

There are a couple of devices in there that explode. Arne Tuesday #112

How is this different than setting land mines? JackSabbath Tuesday #113

oh please Coventina Tuesday #115

Well then I guess most of us on this thread are going to hell because most of us support MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #117

I wish it was as simple as killing terrorists FullySupportDems Tuesday #136

I wish this was as simple as not pretending to be deliberately obtuse Hekate Tuesday #209

I don't think I'm being obtuse FullySupportDems Tuesday #222

lol BannonsLiver Tuesday #119

How is a raven like a writing desk? sarisataka Tuesday #159

He'll what? LOL. notroot Tuesday #181

And the kid(s) that died? asm128 Tuesday #211

Oh goody, block us all. I will not block you, however, as I am sure your progress here will be full of incident. Hekate Tuesday #215

That's right... Hezbollah recently killed some children with one of the 100s of rocket attacks on Israel. notroot Tuesday #217

How is this different from being deliberately obtuse? Hekate Tuesday #208

...... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #123

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Israeli Tuesday #151

All at the same time, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #153

Do you think Office Depot would accept returns? RandySF Tuesday #126

Now it's - injured thousands including doctors & nurses womanofthehills Tuesday #133

Link? sarisataka Tuesday #161

Maybe those poor "doctors" and "nurses" shouldn't be carrying TERRORIST pagers? notroot Tuesday #183

And kittens. Why would a pager-carrying terrorist be in a hospital unless it had already gone off? Hekate Tuesday #214

As has been proven, just because you're a doctor doesn't mean you're not a terrorist too. Coventina Tuesday #228

#1 reason not to hide a pager up inside your ass. Kaleva Tuesday #139

Ouch underpants Tuesday #148

According to Sky News Arabic Mosby Tuesday #176

Gotta hand it to whoever thought this up, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #188

I didn't even know that you could still buy pagers anymore--- Jack Valentino Tuesday #193

This one seems a little morally sus Calculating Tuesday #197

Then they shouldn't have been terrorists. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #198

Pagers should be turned off in flight. These pagers were purchased by the terrorists themselves. Coventina Tuesday #227

Have you considered other countries may use pay phones more than the US? sarisataka Tuesday #200

So noted. Jack Valentino Tuesday #201

Ironically, pagers are a Jewish invention Bad Thoughts Tuesday #234

Quite ingenious. I fully support Israel's aim to combat terrorism. Tarc Tuesday #225