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217. That's right... Hezbollah recently killed some children with one of the 100s of rocket attacks on Israel.

Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:35 PM

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Hamas and Hezbollah are already using them as human shields. I guess that means anyone can use them to deflect blame from Hamas and their allies in promoting Islamic extremism and theocracy -- Hezbollah and Iran.

Hamas and Hezbollah can never be attacked, because they surround themselves with innocents at all times, as a deliberate, publicized strategy to inflict moral harm on their enemies when they are attacked in response for their own terrorist atrocities.

It's double-standards all the way down.

War is hell.

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Exploding pagers injure hundreds in attack targeting Hezbollah members, Lebanese security source says [View all] LiberalArkie Tuesday OP

THAT IS AWESOME (nt) Darwins_Retriever Tuesday #1

Next they go after their fax machines and Blackberries. Sneederbunk Tuesday #103

Turns out, you weren't that far off! Walkie-talkies for the win. nt Maru Kitteh Yesterday #246

Kids and pets got hurt. JackSabbath Tuesday #109

Or might as well let them blow up Israelis, because that's really their raison d'etre elias7 Tuesday #142

Oh noes! Not the kids! Not the pets! Beastly Boy Tuesday #182

Really? 3Hotdogs Tuesday #213

Similar to plot line of Kingsman movie? Bmoboy Tuesday #2

Note to self: Don't put my pager or cell phone in my front pants pocket. 🔥 🌰🌰 🔥 TheBlackAdder Tuesday #129

I'm in trouble already.... sdfernando Tuesday #203

And remarkably resembling the just leaked Mossad tapes of the operation. Rockets and all: Beastly Boy Tuesday #184

They are blowing them up with the space lasers, of course sarisataka Tuesday #3

Nope. It's not targeting civilians. However, Hezbollah is not the government of Lebanon. haele Tuesday #12

We already have people defending Hezbollah and saying this is a war crime sarisataka Tuesday #14

Certain folks sure do seem to get upset when Israel gets in the way of their Hezbollah/Hamas buddies.... tritsofme Tuesday #23

That's because most people who don't know average people from that area think black and white. haele Tuesday #61

Thanks, Haele. Very interesting, and substantive. Hekate Tuesday #53

More info coming in jmbar2 Tuesday #63

Hezbollah has been part of the lebanese government since 1992. Mosby Tuesday #72

The question is: does the government of the sovereign state of lebanon have Hezbollah's permission Beastly Boy Tuesday #185

Duh BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #41

Pretty brilliant... jmbar2 Tuesday #4

They weren't targeted to just "bad guys" onandup Tuesday #13

That's on Hizbollah BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #46

And whose fault would that be? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #106

Israel is responsible, as far as we know onandup Tuesday #116

Israel is responsible? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #121

"as far as we know" onandup Tuesday #132

As far as who knows? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #134

What happens when someone initiates a war? Israel did not initiate this war. When Germany... Hekate Tuesday #165

No one is credibly threatening the existence of Israel. onandup Tuesday #204

But they are firing rockets that hit Israeli schools thucythucy Tuesday #206

Alas, that is exactly what the slogan "From the river to the sea" means. It means to do what was done in 1492... Hekate Tuesday #207

It has different meanings, depending on the speaker and context onandup Tuesday #210

No, it does not, unless a person is one of those idiot US protestors who doesn't know what company they keep Hekate Tuesday #212

Rashida Tlaib considers it an aspirational call onandup Tuesday #218

Nice. But in this case, Rashida is blowing smoke. Hekate Tuesday #219

Bibi's Likud party has it's own version onandup Tuesday #220

Change the goalposts Hekate Tuesday #221

I notice you never answered my question. thucythucy Tuesday #229

I don't subscribe to your framing every Israeli action as "defending" itself onandup Yesterday #243

You are indeed misunderstanding. No, not every action taken by Israel is automatically justified in my mind. thucythucy Yesterday #244

Simply put onandup Yesterday #245

Oh, FFS. How much more targeted can you get than the specific personal pagers wnylib Tuesday #216

Source, please? Beastly Boy Tuesday #189

Yeah, how cool would it be if.... JackSabbath Tuesday #120

And I'm guessing you live in a country with oceans on 2 sides, Canada to the North and Mexico to the South elias7 Tuesday #145

What kind of incompetent terrorist would leave his Nasrallah issued pager in a child's room? Beastly Boy Tuesday #196

But doctors & nurses were injured too womanofthehills Tuesday #135

It wasn't the Ukrainian Amb., MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #138

Excellent question sarisataka Tuesday #149

Don't think I'll take that bet, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #157

Narrator: "It went unanswered." notroot Tuesday #179

Are you going to correct this false info? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #150

Narrator: "They were not going to correct the false info." notroot Tuesday #180

I found this. Moosepoop Tuesday #5

I thought the lithium but I remembered the pager I used to carry ran about 3 months on a AAA battery LiberalArkie Tuesday #6

The battery as the explosive is extremely unlikely when comparing against the videos coming out Amishman Tuesday #10

Completely Agree ProfessorGAC Tuesday #16

Well, that's not really true. It depends on the sheathing... mikelewis Tuesday #18

Even with a casing - using the battery like a pipe bomb - you'd still have pyrotechnics Amishman Tuesday #34

Oh... I don't remotely think Israel is behind this at all... mikelewis Tuesday #74

"less conspiratorial" JoseBalow Tuesday #77

Or a donation from Iran or Russia more likely. mikelewis Tuesday #83

They're using pagers because Israel has already hacked their cell phones. marybourg Tuesday #78

Merci Mme. Defarge Tuesday #31

8 dead 2,750 injured rollin74 Tuesday #7

Note to self HAB911 Tuesday #8

Yes... a cell phone battery can explode in the same manner. It's not likely but they can... mikelewis Tuesday #21

If Israel can do pagers HAB911 Tuesday #25

That's really a big if... while a clandestine attack like that is movie quality... mikelewis Tuesday #30

Theoretically... BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #84

You betcha, says the techie across the breakfast table from me... Hekate Tuesday #91

Yes, I'm afraid when and if it hits the fan HAB911 Tuesday #99

. TheProle Tuesday #9

8 dead 2800 injured Johnny2X2X Tuesday #11

There are rules of War concerning blowing up pagers? EX500rider Tuesday #81

Which has killed more nearby civilians? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #89

I think you'll find most people have no problem with giving exploding pagers to terrorists EX500rider Tuesday #92

So you don't think it's okay to supply exploding pagers to terrorists which is what they did? EX500rider Tuesday #144

Israel (and seemingly no one else either) never ratified the Safe Pagers for Terrorists TheKentuckian Tuesday #169

According to whom? Beastly Boy Tuesday #194

This could be a prelude to a larger operation. Mosby Tuesday #15

Disrupting the enemy C3 is a good way to start an operation sarisataka Tuesday #17

It may also be the cell phone companies ensuring that pagers never rise again... you just never know... mikelewis Tuesday #35

Is this satire? JoseBalow Tuesday #87

No... it's just I saw no reason to immediately assume Israel was behind the attack... mikelewis Tuesday #97

It is likely retaliation BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #50

Is that an exploding pager in your pants or are you just happy to see me? PeaceWave Tuesday #19

This was a terror attack Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20

Are terrorists civilians sarisataka Tuesday #22

Women and children were killed and maimed. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #26

Since Hezbollah is already firing rockets sarisataka Tuesday #27

I guess freedom fighters are civilians and can't commit war crimes. nt LexVegas Tuesday #28

You think school children are legit targets for either side? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #29

What fraction? former9thward Tuesday #39

Of course school children are not legitimate targets sarisataka Tuesday #43

Horseshit Johnny2X2X Tuesday #71

I did not claim you hold that position sarisataka Tuesday #94

They get proportional attention Johnny2X2X Tuesday #100

Right, but don't forget that Israel has no beef with Lebanon. This is all on them. elias7 Tuesday #146

Proportional, that is a word sarisataka Tuesday #154

Are you waiting for the freedom fighters to verify the numbers? nt LexVegas Tuesday #44

There are no freedom fighters Johnny2X2X Tuesday #55

"There are no freedom fighters"...So Hezbollah is a gardening club? Coventina Tuesday #60

Hezbollah is a terorist organization Johnny2X2X Tuesday #66

GMAFB Coventina Tuesday #70

You seem to know more about this than anyone newdeal2 Tuesday #62

Do you have a link to support that claim? sarisataka Tuesday #98

I am confused. Are you saying ISRAELIS "distributed boxes of pagers" ? Did you miss the part... Hekate Tuesday #171

And do you think the terrorists will tell you how many terrorists die compared to civilians? EX500rider Tuesday #85

Really? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #110

What utter bullshit. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #190

They were encrypted pagers used by Hezbollah Mosby Tuesday #37

Heh BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #52

Given the number of Hezbollah agents maimed Amishman Tuesday #166

It was a counter-terror operation BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #51

Precisely targeting the communications network of an opposing militia is not a terror attack. mathematic Tuesday #147

They better check the fax machines now newdeal2 Tuesday #24

And then Walkman and MP3 players Otto_Harper Tuesday #101

Terrorists officially terrorized. Brilliant. Bonx Tuesday #32

Pager blasts also reported now in Syria DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #33

Seriously... it could just a major run of poorly engineered lithium batteries... mikelewis Tuesday #42

Why would they all fail at the same time? Mosby Tuesday #47

Physics... mikelewis Tuesday #58

Which cannot and will not Otto_Harper Tuesday #105

That's not sufficient to explain Disaffected Tuesday #118

They all exploded simultaneously Mosby Tuesday #137

Absolutely, I have inside information Otto_Harper Tuesday #224

With the information at this time, it would appear not. DJ Synikus Makisimus Yesterday #239

Hezbollah bought a new batch of pagers 3 months ago. Mosby Tuesday #45

The evidence so far suggests that Hezbollah weren't the only ones DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #57

The evidence so far suggests they were. Beastly Boy Tuesday #199

Your source for this information? DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #186

Obviously those were allies of Hezbollah EX500rider Tuesday #230

Seems to me that very little is obvious in war, DJ Synikus Makisimus Yesterday #238

Despite the boo hooing from people who hate Israel BannonsLiver Tuesday #36

In other news, people still use pagers... Shipwack Tuesday #38

Well... think about it... mikelewis Tuesday #48

They thought they could be stealthier with low-tech -nt Bonx Tuesday #49

Pagers may not have GPS built in like cell phones Bmoboy Tuesday #54

No two way messages to intercept and read hack89 Tuesday #79

Absolutely beautiful BrianTheEVGuy Tuesday #40

Novel approach misanthrope Tuesday #56

Does this date have any significance to anyone in the region? DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #59

Hard to hide that you belong to the terrorist group if you have an exploding pager. Bev54 Tuesday #64

Great job de-escalating things Joe TheRealNorth Tuesday #65

What does Joe have to do with this? newdeal2 Tuesday #68

Don't you know? He's the King of the Middle East! Coventina Tuesday #73

Wanna hear something crazy... mikelewis Tuesday #80

Joe? mcar Tuesday #75

You really think a lot of civilians are using encrypted Hezbollah pagers? EX500rider Tuesday #88

A gratuitous and nonsense pot-shot at a Democratic president? Shocking! tritsofme Tuesday #90

It's Biden's fault? sarisataka Tuesday #102

This might make you feel better BannonsLiver Tuesday #111

What? Hekate Tuesday #175

Stuxnet redux? Brother Buzz Tuesday #67

Yeah, I had a similar reaction. DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #86

Taiwan i read EX500rider Tuesday #231

They are a major chip manufacturer Brother Buzz Tuesday #233

What if someone had been in a plane? Or driving? nolabear Tuesday #69

You should have your pager off while flying. n/t Coventina Tuesday #95

Has Trump taken credit for this yet? RussBLib Tuesday #76

He showed Abdul a photo of his pager newdeal2 Tuesday #82

Ok... so this is interesting. Apparently the pagers were pinged just before exploding... that changes things... mikelewis Tuesday #93

Eliminating terrorist is a "dirty deed"? TheKentuckian Tuesday #187

Not only off the rails, but over the cliff also. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #191

If only there was some way to make nuclear centrifuges Arne Tuesday #96

Well here's hoping Hezbollah never sends members here FullySupportDems Tuesday #104

Please provide the link to the rule of war that says enemy communications are an illegitimate target. Coventina Tuesday #108

Sure, like I said, any civilian anywhere as policy? FullySupportDems Tuesday #122

Please provide the link that states attacks on communications are illegal. Coventina Tuesday #124

How many civilians were actually killed? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #125

I don't understand your question FullySupportDems Tuesday #128

..... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #131

I'll have to look, I thought it was reported everywhere FullySupportDems Tuesday #152

Looks like someone else found a source FullySupportDems Tuesday #155

My opinion would be that those deaths would be on the terrorist org., Hizbollah, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #156

I understand no one has taken credit for blowing up the pagers FullySupportDems Tuesday #223

You don't know crap about waging war do you? MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #114

I don't know crap about waging war? FullySupportDems Tuesday #127

Thanks for proving my point. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #130

No, it is Not FullySupportDems Tuesday #140

Again, you proved my point. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #141

Well then 'splain it to me what who says he's a FullySupportDems Tuesday #160

.... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #162

I think you don't have an answer FullySupportDems Tuesday #167

I think you are ignorant past belief if you don't recognize that DU's veterans have knowledge & experience... Hekate Tuesday #178

I AM a DU veteran FullySupportDems Tuesday #226

Welcome to DU, my apologies for neglecting to extend that before sarisataka Tuesday #168

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #172

I will try to be respectful FullySupportDems Tuesday #174

So just out of curiosity, what did your decade of Air Force experience involve that meant you... Hekate Tuesday #205

Well, I learned that after WW2 there was a trial FullySupportDems Tuesday #232

I may disagree with you on this issue, MarineCombatEngineer 22 hrs ago #247

I appreciate that, right back at ya FullySupportDems 21 hrs ago #248

Thank you MarineCombatEngineer 21 hrs ago #249

I think you're right FullySupportDems 21 hrs ago #250

Attacking an enemy's communications systems is not at all debatable, sarisataka Tuesday #158

Great question. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #163

The more I read this poster in this thread... Hekate Tuesday #192

Or you could simply ask FullySupportDems Tuesday #235

It sounds like it's okay if it's only a few civilians maybe? FullySupportDems Tuesday #170

You didn't answer my question why you are drastically inflating numbers sarisataka Tuesday #173

And so far We're Geting Crickets from your excellent Cha Tuesday #202

Sorry I missed this one FullySupportDems Tuesday #236

There are no Hezbollah members in America ?? Israeli Tuesday #143

Are you an acceptable target if you get on a plane with one FullySupportDems Tuesday #164

This operation was as closely targeted as it is possible to be. And as has been pointed out... Hekate Tuesday #195

But they are not in a declared war are they? FullySupportDems Yesterday #237

You do realize Hezbollah has been actively attacking Israel since October 8, don't you? elias7 Yesterday #240

Three or four people in this thread don't know it & don't believe it regardless Hekate Yesterday #241

Mischaracterizing the situation isn't helpful FullySupportDems Yesterday #242

Way to completely misunderstand the whole discussion Hekate Tuesday #177

Pro terrorist accounts all over social media melting over this. Ace Rothstein Tuesday #107

There are a couple of devices in there that explode. Arne Tuesday #112

How is this different than setting land mines? JackSabbath Tuesday #113

oh please Coventina Tuesday #115

Well then I guess most of us on this thread are going to hell because most of us support MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #117

I wish it was as simple as killing terrorists FullySupportDems Tuesday #136

I wish this was as simple as not pretending to be deliberately obtuse Hekate Tuesday #209

I don't think I'm being obtuse FullySupportDems Tuesday #222

lol BannonsLiver Tuesday #119

How is a raven like a writing desk? sarisataka Tuesday #159

He'll what? LOL. notroot Tuesday #181

And the kid(s) that died? asm128 Tuesday #211

Oh goody, block us all. I will not block you, however, as I am sure your progress here will be full of incident. Hekate Tuesday #215

That's right... Hezbollah recently killed some children with one of the 100s of rocket attacks on Israel. notroot Tuesday #217

How is this different from being deliberately obtuse? Hekate Tuesday #208

...... MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #123

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Israeli Tuesday #151

All at the same time, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #153

Do you think Office Depot would accept returns? RandySF Tuesday #126

Now it's - injured thousands including doctors & nurses womanofthehills Tuesday #133

Link? sarisataka Tuesday #161

Maybe those poor "doctors" and "nurses" shouldn't be carrying TERRORIST pagers? notroot Tuesday #183

And kittens. Why would a pager-carrying terrorist be in a hospital unless it had already gone off? Hekate Tuesday #214

As has been proven, just because you're a doctor doesn't mean you're not a terrorist too. Coventina Tuesday #228

#1 reason not to hide a pager up inside your ass. Kaleva Tuesday #139

Ouch underpants Tuesday #148

According to Sky News Arabic Mosby Tuesday #176

Gotta hand it to whoever thought this up, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #188

I didn't even know that you could still buy pagers anymore--- Jack Valentino Tuesday #193

This one seems a little morally sus Calculating Tuesday #197

Then they shouldn't have been terrorists. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #198

Pagers should be turned off in flight. These pagers were purchased by the terrorists themselves. Coventina Tuesday #227

Have you considered other countries may use pay phones more than the US? sarisataka Tuesday #200

So noted. Jack Valentino Tuesday #201

Ironically, pagers are a Jewish invention Bad Thoughts Tuesday #234

Quite ingenious. I fully support Israel's aim to combat terrorism. Tarc Tuesday #225