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194. Doctors and nurses carry pagers

Wed Sep 18, 2024, 07:32 PM

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No shock and no one has ever questioned that.

How many doctors and nurses had "those" pagers, that is the ones ordered by Hezbollah? Only a very specific set of pagers were sabotaged and they were not sold to the general public.

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Israel Planted Explosives in Pagers Sold to Hezbollah, Officials Say [View all] Coventina Sep 17 OP

Yes Hobo Sep 17 #1

It's horrible technology womanofthehills Sep 18 #112

well then I guess you better try your best not to be a Hezbollah supporter NoRethugFriends Sep 18 #151

lol. That would probably be a wise move. JohnSJ Sep 18 #153

I think the idea is that if Israel can do this so can terrorist organizations. MLAA Sep 18 #201

another link requiring subscription and log in to read. nt msongs Sep 17 #2

Archive.ph is your friend BWdem4life Sep 17 #6

ppl could post accessible links and avoid all that baloney nt msongs Sep 17 #8

Not everyone knows how BWdem4life Sep 17 #9

Terrorizing the terrorists BWdem4life Sep 17 #3

what about the thousands injured who were not terrorists?.... msongs Sep 17 #10

See post 11. nt BWdem4life Sep 17 #12

The pagers were purchased by Hezbollah and distributed to their members. Coventina Sep 17 #37

A building, an installation, yes. Not people walking about. AloeVera Sep 17 #41

War on Hezbollah. These people had the pagers for the express purposes of waging terror on Israel. Coventina Sep 17 #44

You mean terror for terror. AloeVera Sep 17 #45

Well, once Israel is allowed to exist, things will get better. Coventina Sep 17 #48

When both people are allowed to exist in freedom and security AloeVera Sep 18 #56

Hold up there soandso Sep 18 #138

Oh Geez. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #142

Can you elaborate? soandso Sep 18 #147

i believe the "Oh jeez" refers to your mention of "their land" Beastly Boy Sep 18 #200

Oh, you don't "buy" what I said? soandso Sep 18 #207

Correction: I don't know who is buying your "just observing" stance. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #217

What I think soandso Sep 19 #218

For someone asking simple questions, you come across as being pretty defensive. Beastly Boy Sep 19 #225

Where is this Israeli-Palestinian conflict taking place soandso Sep 19 #239

Hold up yourself... elias7 Sep 18 #210

I'm familiar with all of those talking points soandso Sep 18 #212

Tell Hezbolla to cut it out paleotn Sep 18 #103

Maybe not. AZSkiffyGeek Sep 18 #136

Or carrier pigeons. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #140

2 cans and a string. nt yagotme Sep 20 #247

LOL, until the cans started to explode. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #248

Det cord for string... nt yagotme Sep 20 #249

Exactly what I was thinking. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #250

They can disband or surrender. TheKentuckian Sep 18 #181

If you think using terror and committing war crimes is fair game, AloeVera Sep 20 #255

Sorry AloeVera, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #258

I am sorry for your loss. It must be very emotional for you right now. AloeVera Sep 20 #262

If you're talking about current Lebanon casualties, yagotme Sep 20 #267

What about Hezbollah terrorism? Prendy Sep 19 #236

Hezbollah is launching missiles into Israel. Indiscriminately. yagotme Sep 20 #251

rubbish. the party putting bombs in pagers is responsible for what happens, responsible for all the deaths msongs Sep 17 #47

Rubbish. The pagers were purchased for waging terror. Coventina Sep 17 #49

so if someone sat next to you on a bus and their pager blew up and mangled u thats cool? nt msongs Sep 17 #53

No it's not cool. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #58

Obviously it's your fault for sitting next to a clandestine terrorist Orrex Sep 18 #67

It's actually the clandestine terrorist's fault for sitting next to you. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #206

Lots of drs and nurses had those pagers womanofthehills Sep 18 #98

Lots? How many? sarisataka Sep 18 #99

Because of bad internet connections -drs & nurses often have them womanofthehills Sep 18 #191

Doctors and nurses carry pagers sarisataka Sep 18 #194

Post removed Post removed Sep 20 #271

Where's your source? Where are your links? questionseverything Sep 19 #230

Since you are questioning everything sarisataka Sep 19 #233

They shouldn't be working for Hezbollah then! TheKentuckian Sep 18 #182

you sound like you have direct knowledge of the stats for those things. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #208

2700 injured. Around 3000 pagers bought by and distributed to Hezbollah. onenote Sep 17 #46

How many pagers were detonated? Orrex Sep 20 #297

Huh? Who came up with thousands who were not terrorists? Beastly Boy Sep 18 #59

I'm taking a wild guess here, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #85

I was itching for the answer, but you are right, I didn't expect any. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #89

Hurr Durr Netanyahu Genocide AZSkiffyGeek Sep 19 #234

So can we now declare Israel a terrorist state if they employ terrorism? RAB910 Sep 17 #27

its not terrorism or murder if israel does it based on what I read on much of DU nt msongs Sep 17 #30

+1 Chautauquas Sep 18 #128

It is legitimate and targeted counter terrorism TheKentuckian Sep 18 #179

Have you ever heard of the Fourth Geneva Convention? Beastly Boy Sep 18 #209

Just like we could declare the U.S. a terrorist state BWdem4life Sep 17 #32

Ah, yes. The panacea of whataboutism Orrex Sep 18 #69

No we can't. We can't unilaterally define terrorism in any way we find convenient at any given moment. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #60

this meets the definition of a terror attack RAB910 Sep 18 #63

I don't know what prompted you to make this statement, but you appear to Beastly Boy Sep 18 #75

You claimed Israel's terror attack didn't meet the definition, yet you had no definition. Interesting RAB910 Sep 18 #100

To be clear, Beastly Boy Sep 18 #118

If you refuse to believe me, how about listening to an expert? RAB910 Sep 18 #121

That's interesting I guess, however neither Lebanon nor Israel are parties to the Rome Statute. tritsofme Sep 18 #125

It's not that I refuse to believe you. It's just you gave me no reason to believe you. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #129

So, Hezbollah, from Lebanon, is launching indiscriminate missiles into Israel on a continuing basis. yagotme Sep 20 #252

rec times Mossfern Sep 20 #280

How are you defining terror attack? sarisataka Sep 18 #79

here RAB910 Sep 18 #101

In this case the attack was specifically targeted at Hezbollah members sarisataka Sep 18 #102

Trying to justify a terrorist attack doesn't negate the fact that it was a terror attack RAB910 Sep 18 #104

Except it wasn't a terror attack, no matter how many times you say it is, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #105

Ironic since the number of denials will not change the fact that it was a terror attack designed to terrorize and RAB910 Sep 18 #114

Your definition doesn't fit the circumstances no matter how much you demand everyone pretends it does. TheKentuckian Sep 18 #183

Just because you call it a terrorist attack doesn't mean it is a terrorist attack sarisataka Sep 18 #108

Just because you deny it (even with the attack perfectly matching the definition) doesn't mean it wasn't a terror attack RAB910 Sep 18 #115

One last try sarisataka Sep 18 #119

Literally every military expert saw it differently. The saw the attack as a means to terrorize Hamas and demoralize RAB910 Sep 18 #120

Please link to these statements by these experts sarisataka Sep 18 #122

Here is one, feel free to do the work for the many others RAB910 Sep 18 #123

Don't see a single person The New Arab interviewed sarisataka Sep 18 #124

What happened to "every"? TheKentuckian Sep 18 #185

Let me ask you this soandso Sep 18 #149

A good question sarisataka Sep 18 #156

Fair answer soandso Sep 18 #163

All Hezbollah actions are acts of terrorism, they are a terrorist organization. TheKentuckian Sep 18 #186

Before Israel became a nation state soandso Sep 18 #192

I sympathize with where you're coming from soandso Sep 20 #284

Wouldn't that be part of the idea soandso Sep 20 #286

I see this more like car bombs soandso Sep 18 #146

I suppose you could phrase it that way if sarisataka Sep 18 #148

I haven't followed terribly closely soandso Sep 18 #150

I would say claudette Sep 18 #139

Of course you would. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #141

It's more about how scary this technology is womanofthehills Sep 18 #113

I find that scary, as well soandso Sep 18 #152

The ability to hide explosives in electronics goes back decades EX500rider Sep 18 #199

People are shocked like explosives.Have never been put in a routine item previously sarisataka Sep 18 #203

No - terrorizing the world womanofthehills Sep 18 #116

Yes soandso Sep 18 #155

How do you know claudette Sep 18 #132

Mossad to Hezbollah: FAFO madaboutharry Sep 17 #4

Doesn't that work both ways? soandso Sep 18 #160

Israel decolonized the land. madaboutharry Sep 18 #164

How does that work? soandso Sep 18 #169

Many Jews were driven into the Diaspora, Many remained. madaboutharry Sep 18 #173

"Israel does not have the right to even exist" soandso Sep 18 #175

Decolonized it from its native inhabitants you mean. AloeVera Sep 18 #172

Do you believe Israel has the right to exist sarisataka Sep 18 #178

Ok I'll bite and hope you won't make me regret my honest response. AloeVera Sep 18 #214

I truly appreciate honesty sarisataka Sep 19 #222

This is how we need to talk to each other! AloeVera Sep 19 #241

I think the view on the Palestinians of the average Israeli sarisataka Sep 20 #243

That's gonna be a tough one soandso Sep 20 #289

I just saw this story on NBC Nightly News FakeNoose Sep 17 #5

weapons of mass destructions. many victims were not hezbollah. they just randomly had msongs Sep 17 #7

That's a shame BWdem4life Sep 17 #11

its not a shame. its premediated murder of innocent people msongs Sep 17 #13

And this is different from what Hezbllah does... how? BWdem4life Sep 17 #14

umm no. ppl are responsbile for the morality of their own acts. indiscriminate murder is murder msongs Sep 17 #16

And that's a shame. nt BWdem4life Sep 17 #18

Nobody with a Hezbollah pager is innocent. NT BrianTheEVGuy Sep 17 #24

Were they labeled at Hezbollah Pagers? Johnny2X2X Sep 18 #65

They were part of a batch order by Hizbollah BrianTheEVGuy Sep 18 #96

Oh, it would be somehow "different". aocommunalpunch Sep 18 #106

Only because you seem to insist that Hezbollah can take any legitimate action TheKentuckian Sep 18 #187

If a Hezbollah operative, soandso Sep 18 #170

Better she die than an Israeli victim of her father. NT BrianTheEVGuy Sep 18 #180

My first reaction to your comment soandso Sep 18 #184

You can't make peace with terrorists BrianTheEVGuy Sep 18 #197

What evidence is there soandso Sep 18 #211

Wow BrianTheEVGuy Sep 19 #224

How about addressing what I wrote soandso Sep 19 #237

Yeah, no BrianTheEVGuy Sep 19 #238

What a cop out soandso Sep 19 #240

Actually ..... I think Mossfern Sep 20 #275

Yes pagers work one way, incoming sarisataka Sep 20 #276

I don't think you call a pager with a phone soandso Sep 20 #281

Why would he do that? sarisataka Sep 20 #277

I actually don't know soandso Sep 20 #282

That explains it sarisataka Sep 20 #283

So can two pager operators text each other soandso Sep 20 #285

AFAIK they are inbound only sarisataka Sep 20 #288

How did the 8 yr old girt reap that? iemanja Sep 17 #42

She was an innocent victim BWdem4life Sep 18 #54

True enough soandso Sep 18 #167

you're 100% right, of course... WarGamer Sep 17 #19

Since when does the possession of a communication device for exclusive use by a terrorist group Beastly Boy Sep 18 #61

Post removed Post removed Sep 18 #78

That is an outright lie, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #80

Hezbollah Gave them out to their fellow war fighters. Not jimfields33 Sep 18 #162

"Evil justifies evil" is such a laudably progressive attitude Orrex Sep 18 #66

Those kids killed a couple of weeks ago by Hezbollah at a sports stadium a few weeks ago by their targeted JohnSJ Sep 18 #158

Randomly had access to pagers owned by terrorists? NickB79 Sep 17 #15

Happened to be in the vicinity iemanja Sep 17 #43

I bet we never even learn the child's name FullySupportDems Sep 17 #51

Her name is Fatima Abdullah. Nine years old. Nanjeanne Sep 18 #64

The Times reported 8yrs iemanja Sep 18 #70

I believe that was first reported. Now saying nine. Either way too young to have her life taken. Nanjeanne Sep 18 #77

Glad to be wrong about that FullySupportDems Sep 18 #97

Someone she was associated with was Hamas and that is why she died ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 20 #263

Or, could have been a lookout/messenger. yagotme Sep 20 #270

Thanks for your compassion for a dead child. By the way, its Hezzbollah not Hamas and I guess your point is Nanjeanne Sep 20 #272

I think of unanticipated consequences ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 20 #278

As I said, your compassion for an innocent child is staggering. Nanjeanne Sep 20 #279

We learned the names of sarisataka Sep 18 #82

I wasn't sure about replying FullySupportDems Sep 18 #166

Not directed at you personally sarisataka Sep 18 #168

I appreciate that FullySupportDems Sep 18 #193

The air force always did get the brunt of it sarisataka Sep 18 #198

Questioning life choices FullySupportDems Sep 18 #204

I don't think so soandso Sep 18 #177

The responsibility is still on the TERRORISTS NickB79 Sep 18 #55

Where does that excuse end, exactly? Orrex Sep 18 #71

+1 Dave Bowman Sep 18 #126

It ends when the attacks stop and they surrender. TheKentuckian Sep 18 #190

Israel is attempting, to the best of their ability, to make precision hits against the terrorists. yagotme Sep 20 #254

I'm not sure that's true. Orrex Sep 20 #290

Those devices were being sent to Hezbollah. yagotme Sep 20 #291

Do you imagine that the terrorists would carry the pagers only when alone or with other terrorists? Orrex Sep 20 #296

It's uncountable, because of frequency of occurrence, and I lack the patience yagotme Sep 23 #301

Carpet bombing schools, hospitals, and entire neighborhoods full of children doesn't sound too precise to me. sarisataka Sep 20 #294

Would that make soandso Sep 18 #174

Link? sarisataka Sep 17 #20

NYT when read from google search the page loaded, but copy and paste leads to login required msongs Sep 17 #21

Thank you sarisataka Sep 17 #23

LOL! Beepers are weapons of mass destruction?!?!?! Coventina Sep 17 #38

Not according to Hezbollah Beastly Boy Sep 18 #62

Yes claudette Sep 18 #137

They just randomly had Hezbollah issued encrypted pagers? EX500rider Sep 18 #202

Q would be proud nycbos Sep 17 #17

Wonderful BrianTheEVGuy Sep 17 #22

You might even say it was "balls to the wall." harumph Sep 18 #73

And in some cases... BrianTheEVGuy Sep 18 #95

One to two ounces of high explosive wouldn't make the targets suspicious jmowreader Sep 17 #25

There's a lot I don't understand about the dynamics between all these groups, and I'm sure there are wiggs Sep 17 #26

Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel, more since oct 7th Mosby Sep 17 #31

Seems to me the military actions from both have been less than all out war. There have been wiggs Sep 17 #34

I'm sure if Mexico fired over 14,000 Rockets across the border into the US we would consider it war EX500rider Sep 18 #205

Post removed Post removed Sep 17 #28

I'm not ok with Israel using terrorist tactics. bullimiami Sep 17 #29

Right. they should just nicely ask Hezbollah to not fire missiles into Israel anymore. NoRethugFriends Sep 17 #33

LOL!!! Monstrous is buying beepers for your terrorist organization to plot and plan terrorism. Coventina Sep 17 #39

Hezbollah Are Terrorists. IDF is Fighting Terrorism. Cha Sep 17 #50

Me neither claudette Sep 18 #134

oh, so it was not Hezbollah sending missiles into Israel NoRethugFriends Sep 18 #154

There is a book I would like to recommend: madaboutharry Sep 17 #35

They have identified the Mossad Agent involved. Jk23 Sep 17 #36

Israel was sending targeted drone strikes to terrorist cellphones via its GPS *BOOM* Tarc Sep 17 #40

Taiwanese company enid602 Sep 17 #52

War criminals for going after terrorists? Elessar Zappa Sep 18 #72

..... MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #74

Booby trap enid602 Sep 18 #130

That would be optimal. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #135

Some of the reactions to this are a trip Sympthsical Sep 18 #57

I wish this wasn't so funny...or true. tritsofme Sep 18 #68

There seems to be much concern that terrorists are being fought unfairly sarisataka Sep 18 #81

What's not " a trip" is the pleasure a few DUers are taking in maiming suspects without trial muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #86

Without a trial? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #87

Well then, you don't carry out death sentences or deliberate maiming on them muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #88

In war, Command and Control systems are a legitimate target, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #92

War is an awful thing Sympthsical Sep 18 #90

With Hezbollah, it's worth remembering it was formed in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #91

Oh my, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #93

"When we targeted Nazis, we hit some party members not holding a gun" Sympthsical Sep 18 #94

honestly RJ_MacReady Sep 18 #107

Seems that way doesn't it? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #109

I'm pointing out that the glee at people getting maimed and killed has its own problems muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #110

I'm gleeing at terrorists getting maimed and killed MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #111

Why would you let your thoughts be dictated by what the far right thinks? Here are better people: muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #117

If they are worried about escalation or civilian casualties they should prioritize stopping the attacks TheKentuckian Sep 18 #196

Why did Israel invade Lebanon? JoseBalow Sep 18 #171

Because of the PLO - a quite different grouping from Hezbollah (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #176

Which ones blew up the US Marines barracks? JoseBalow Sep 18 #213

"is a suitable sentence, carried out without trial" You don't seem to have a firm grasp on how war works EX500rider Sep 18 #216

War? Israel has signed agreements not to use booby traps in war muriel_volestrangler Sep 19 #219

Except they didn't booby trap civilian objects lying around EX500rider Sep 19 #223

That was really clever. I can't really leftyladyfrommo Sep 18 #76

Yes. Extreme communication difficulties for Hezbollah now rollin74 Sep 18 #83

Honestly that sounds like a movie plot. leftyladyfrommo Sep 18 #84

Curious about something, since you raised it. AloeVera Sep 18 #188

Wow, a lot of people love indiscriminate violence here. kjones Sep 18 #127

This was the opposite of "indiscriminate ". It was very marybourg Sep 18 #133

Ok, so Israel wanted to kill kids. Got it. kjones Sep 20 #264

You obviously don't "got it", as "kids" didn't appear anywhere in their post. yagotme Sep 23 #302

No inconsistency. Lifelong liberal and never has supporting terrorists been one of my values. notroot Sep 18 #143

indiscriminate is targeting Hezbollah members?? NoRethugFriends Sep 18 #157

Nah, I'm not one of the people who regularly has to justify how children are somehow terrorists. kjones Sep 20 #265

"indiscriminate" Tarc Sep 18 #195

Yes, if I detonate hundreds of explosive devices without knowing where they are and who has them, it is indescriminate. kjones Sep 20 #266

Terrorists had them. Or terrorist-adjacent people. Tarc Sep 20 #292

Wow, a lot of people give certain people a pass here. NT Patton French Sep 18 #215

Yeah, some people here are pretty cool with dead kids. kjones Sep 20 #268

Nobody here is cool with dead kids, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #269

Really? Do tell... sarisataka Sep 20 #273

"Certain people" Tarc Sep 20 #293

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #295

Huh? Patton French Sep 21 #298

Oops, my bad, wrong person. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 21 #299

No worries. Patton French Sep 21 #300

The next time a terrorist act kills Jewish children sarisataka Sep 20 #274

Yep claudette Sep 18 #131

Yawn Coventina Sep 18 #144

I will join you... madaboutharry Sep 18 #145

Yup 😴 nt Raine Sep 19 #220

Yeah! BrianTheEVGuy Sep 18 #159

Agree Raine Sep 19 #221

"Israel doing what it does best. Killing innocent people." EX500rider Sep 19 #242

The poor, poor put upon and totally innocent terrorist! TheKentuckian Sep 20 #287

Shameful - never underestimate nasty people. walkingman Sep 18 #161

I can hear it... sarisataka Sep 18 #165

You got that right! n/t Coventina Sep 18 #189

Not so great had one of those pagers ended up on a Klarkashton Sep 19 #226

Pagers are supposed to be off on planes. Coventina Sep 19 #227

I'm sure they relied on that rule. JFC. Klarkashton Sep 19 #228

A major terrorist organization was crippled, a huge win in the fight against global terrorism. Coventina Sep 19 #232

I read one analysis (I will try to relocate the article) sarisataka Sep 19 #229

I'll take your word for it. LOL. Klarkashton Sep 19 #231

Didn't find the exact article but here you go sarisataka Sep 19 #235

Not nearly enough explosives to endanger a commercial airliner FBaggins Sep 20 #244

I guess you are the expert. Klarkashton Sep 20 #245

FBaggins is correct. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #246

In this conversation? Yes FBaggins Sep 20 #253

You DO have to remember, some of us here have served, yagotme Sep 20 #257

"There's a reason the TSA limits liquids a bit over three ounces." yep EX500rider Sep 20 #256

I'm just curious, but if a battery was replaced, would the pager still work properly? yagotme Sep 20 #259

I assume it just would not last as long between being charged up EX500rider Sep 20 #261

Other reporting said the batteries were laced with PETN FBaggins Sep 20 #260