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In reply to the discussion: No, pro Palestinian leftists, Israel is not committing genocide [View all]Eko
(8,608 posts)86. They do not have equal rights.
PCIs are among Israels most marginalized minorities. Israel does not have a constitution that guarantees equality for all before the law. Instead, important privileges and rights are conferred based on nationality. For example, an Israeli law passed in 2018 declared that only Jewish people have a right to self-determination and that Arabic is not an official language, despite its indigeneity. Even discussing the Palestinian history of displacement and dispossession in public entities, including schools, risks the loss of state funding under legislation popularly known as the Nakba law.
PCIs also hold different identification documents than their Jewish counterparts. The IDs are labeled with race and religionmarkers that restrict where Arabs can reside. Though most PCIs are allowed to vote (since they hold Israeli passports, which differentiates them from East Jerusalemites, who do not), they face organized suppression and intimidation efforts. In elections conducted in 2019, authorities mounted cameras in polling stations where PCIs vote, and those living in the Naqab (Negev) had to travel 50 kilometers (31 miles) to the closest polling station. It wasnt until 2021 that a Palestinian political party was able to join an Israeli governing coalition for the first time. The experience was short-lived, however, and it was succeeded by the most extreme, right-wing government in Israels history.
As far a living peacefully,
As vitriol from Israeli media stations and politicians against PCIs has increased, so have incidents of violence and racism. For example, on October 28, a mob surrounded a dormitory for Palestinian students at Netanya College and chanted death to Arabs. Though the police and some PCI community leaders prevented the mob from entering the building, the students were forced to return to their villages because their safety could not be ensured. PCIs have also shown up to work to see racist, offensive graffiti targeting them and have been physically threatened by patrons. Some PCIs employed in Jewish or mixed localities have stopped working because of this.
https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/02/the-many-civil-and-human-rights-challenges-facing-israels-palestinian-citizens?lang=en
The Israeli government directly controls 93% of the land in Israel and systematically discriminates against Palestinian citizens of Israel in its allocation through official agencies like the Israel Land Authority and quasi-governmental Jewish National Fund. Combined with the discriminatory Admissions Committee Law, approximately 80% of state lands are off-limits to Palestinian citizens of Israel, who face significant legal obstacles in gaining access to this land for residential, agricultural, or commercial development.
In 2011, the Knesset passed the "Admissions Committees Law, which allows more than 300 small majority-Jewish towns to exclude applicants for residency who dont meet vague "social suitability" standards. As noted by Human Rights Watch in a statement entitled Israel: New Laws Marginalize Palestinian Arab Citizens:
The measure anchors in law a practice that has been the basis for unjustly rejecting applications by Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel as well as members of socially marginalized groups such as Jews of non-European ancestry and single-parent families Parliamentary statements indicate that the law's sponsors intended it to allow majority-Jewish communities to maintain their current demographic makeup by excluding Palestinian Arab citizens, an act of discrimination on the basis of their race, ethnicity, and national origin.
https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-palestinian-citizens-of-israel
There are all these laws that either directly or indirectly discriminate against Palestinians who hold Israeli citizenship, including laws that prevent me and others from moving into certain towns, she said, referring to an Israeli law that allows villages and towns in certain regions to operate admission committees. They have the power to bar people from moving in if they are deemed to be not suitable to the communitys social-cultural fabric.
The law was expanded this year and now applies to settlements of 700 households, up from 400 previously. Adalah, an NGO that focuses on the rights of the Arab minority in Israel, said the expanded version of the law covers 41% of all localities and 80% of the states territory.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/arab-israeli-citizens-cmd-intl/index.html
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If not to insure ongoing hatred of Israel, why do so many people who know better insist on calling it genocide?
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#35
If this were to happen once or twice in a blue moon, you could blame it on imprecise wording.
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#57
Of course not. They pretend to think of it as a legal term while being willfuly ignorant of what it entails.
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#88
But you're not just pointing out a fallacy, not just pointing out the word "genocide" being used incorrectly
RidinWithHarris
Sep 30
#115
Did you ever come across an OP on DU containing instances of violence in Gaza?
Beastly Boy
Oct 1
#124
When one detects suspiciously consistent narrative patterns, it would be pure folly to not acknowledge them.
Beastly Boy
Oct 1
#129
You don't get to claim the moral high ground after Israel murders over 100,000 innocent people
RAB910
Sep 29
#4
The same Lancet with the totally BS causalities figures from the 2nd Persian Gulf War against Iraq?
EX500rider
Sep 29
#56
So you think an entirely different study by an entirely different team of researchers
Rob H.
Sep 29
#59
So wrong. Genocide is INTENTIONAL killing of a group of people based on their ethnicity or race
elias7
Sep 29
#11
Yes it doesn't matter, They'll find some other reason to excuse Bibi's genocide againt the Palestinians.
canuckledragger
Sep 29
#72
Then what is the term for mass bombing of civilians and pushing them off their land?
Martin Eden
Sep 29
#21
"Do you think after all that has happened, Jews and Palestinians can live together peacefully as citizens with equal
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#38
With the question you asked and answered, you are ignoring Gaza and the West Bank
Martin Eden
Sep 29
#49
The question was yours. My response was to bring your attention to the state where the answer to your question
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#55
Are "cultural differences" the distinction between Israeli Palestinians and those in the West Bank and Gaza?
Martin Eden
Sep 29
#75
The ICJ has NOT found Israel's conduct to at least merit charges for war crimes.
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#40
You are correct about the ICC Court itself not having made a determination versus
moniss
Sep 30
#120
Only 41000, life doesn't have much value, I guess. That is only 2% of the population.
doc03
Sep 29
#19
So it is the fault of Gazan civilians for getting in the way. Bibi could nuke Gaza and kill
doc03
Sep 29
#50
This might make some sense if there was evidence of land taken by Israel as a resultt of
Beastly Boy
Sep 29
#45
That's nothing compared to the death toll of a Republican when they become president
DSandra
Sep 29
#29
ah yes, the old 'anti-semitism' deflection when people point out Bibi's genocide against the Palestinians.
canuckledragger
Sep 29
#100
I suggest that with a slogan such as "From the river to the sea", it is the Palestinians
marybourg
Sep 29
#73
And yet it's the Palestinian civilians that are the ones getting slaughtered by the 10's of 1000's
canuckledragger
Sep 29
#74
So slaughtering innocent civilians is OK to you...or only if they're Palestinians?
canuckledragger
Sep 29
#78