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JI7

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24. I didn't watch the whole debate but the few clips I saw I didn't think he even
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 10:37 AM
Oct 4

came across well. He comes off as very phony, sleazy, and unlikable. I thought Walz came off as real, empathetic, and likable.

The Biden debate with Paul Ryan is an example of coming across as tougher but still being real and likable. Vance was nothing like this. There might be people that say Vance "won" just based on who they think seems more forceful or aggrssive but how about in how many they could convince to support them ?

The poll which showed Walz increased his likability while Vance still had more unlikable over likable would confirm my view.

And this doesn't even get into the lies told by Vance.

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Grading him relative to Dementia Donald yields the "so well" marking. RockRaven Oct 4 #1
Right. elleng Oct 4 #3
Right, he's an expert liar. elleng Oct 4 #2
Because he is the sugar coated slick version of MAGA extremism MistakenLamb Oct 4 #4
Walz got commercial spots and highest approval from swing, Vance got a chance to show he was a mammal uponit7771 Oct 4 #5
Every source that I've heard said that Tim Walz won Rhiannon12866 Oct 4 #6
Yeah, well I keep hearing that the orange gibbon was a great president as well. OldBaldy1701E Oct 4 #7
For the mainstream media, markodochartaigh Oct 4 #8
Question: What's the difference between an artist... DAngelo136 Oct 4 #9
The hackneyed "Style over Substance" veneer. no_hypocrisy Oct 4 #10
His arrogance and his belief that he is superior Tesha Oct 4 #11
Only slight correction...mouthpiece for a real billionaire and fluffer to a fake one JT45242 Oct 4 #12
It's much like how evangelicals swoon over the closest thing we've seen to the antichrist Orrex Oct 4 #13
He was smooth and articulate in his lying. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 4 #14
I feel Tim Walz won the debate. He is trustworthy and answered everything. Vance is a sleezy guy TommieMommy Oct 4 #15
But these aren't actual debates. These are beauty pagents Kaleva Oct 4 #16
I don't watch them because I already know who I'm voting for Kaleva Oct 4 #17
Lugubrious shitweasel is poised on stage without need for coaching EYESORE 9001 Oct 4 #18
Vance was impressive... GopherGal Oct 4 #21
Republicans are praised for breathing, Democrats nitpicked to death for breathing. That's the rule. betsuni Oct 4 #19
He came across as composed, assured and more human than on the trail--but (excuse me, BUT!!!!) Maeve Oct 4 #20
You nailed it! nt Dear_Prudence Oct 4 #27
He did what he set out to accomplish... kentuck Oct 4 #22
Waltz approval rating post debate rose even higher. Emile Oct 4 #23
Both of them had their approval ratings rise after the debate Polybius Oct 4 #25
I didn't watch the whole debate but the few clips I saw I didn't think he even JI7 Oct 4 #24
He did, no point denying it. Jirel Oct 4 #26
No point in denying it? kcr Oct 4 #29
But he told his lies with style and confidence -misanthroptimist Oct 4 #28
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