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In reply to the discussion: Kamala's winning, and it's not close [View all]Dennis Donovan
(27,780 posts)4. "Nate Silver has fallen"
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Nate Silver has fallen.
Nate Silver was treated as a prophet for another two presidential elections, but thus corrupted, we invited more corruption. First came Donald Trump, who began a reordering of political coalitions that polling wasnt designed to measure. Polls were built to fight the last war, not detect an insurgency in 2016 or the chaos of 2020. Then, after Dobbs, the dials swung left, and Trumps partisans discovered they could game the system by flooding aggregators with what Simon Rosenberg dubbed red wave polls. These bad-faith polls goosed support for Republicans, but that support never showed up to vote in 2022.
Polling is broken, and yet the experts in the news media tap the dials, knowing something is off but reporting it anyway as if corrupted data were verifiable news. This creates a funhouse mirror experience for the last remaining consumers of mainstream news. As Frank Spring, whos been on a bit of a rant lately about polling on his Substack, told me, CNNs Harry Enten is out here telling us that theres just no conceivable way to read this election as anything other than 50-50, but also that its extremely likely that it will be decided by a landslide.
The corruption has come full circle and claimed its Dr. Frankenstein. Nate Silver has fallen:
Frank Spring: I would throw myself in the sea before I wrote such a thing or permitted it to be published in my newspaper
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There hasn't been a republican elected to President since 1988 with the majority of the vote.
Botany
Oct 27
#15
I live in Montana. Anytime that I engage a MAGA, I always start with getting money out of politics.
mjvpi
Oct 27
#66
Combined Third Parties were really strong in 2016, combining for 5.7% of the vote (the most since 1996)
Polybius
Oct 27
#69
w wouldn't have been in the 2004 election if not for the cheating in the 2000 election and I would
Botany
Oct 27
#49
That was highly debatable because of the shenanigans in Ohio and Florida. n/t
valleyrogue
Oct 27
#55
Trump canceling events and holding an inexplicable rally at Madison Square Garden
surfered
Oct 27
#12
This is an absolutely excellent article! I have a feeling of inevitability after Dobbs, and believe Harris will
PatrickforB
Oct 27
#18
I'm sure that this must have come up again in discussions here, but I missed it, if it did.
BobTheSubgenius
Oct 28
#70