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63. Q: Were those results verified? A: No. They couldn't be.

Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:43 PM

Oct 27

In important states and precincts, the voting machinery had no way to audit for accuracy, because there was no "paper trail." What can you test against if it's fully electronic, from the vote-casting through the tabulators?

Many bizarre statistical anomalies - or "irregularities" - were reported between exit polls and tabulated results, only as sharp outliers when things around them seemed normal. The states that year were Ohio, and as I recall, New Mexico.

Since then, the ability to check paper ballots has made a huge difference. Republicans suddenly have fits about "fraud" -- because it's harder for THEM to commit it!!

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Kamala's winning, and it's not close [View all] teran Oct 27 OP

When the Constitution is amended to eliminate the EC... J_William_Ryan Oct 27 #1

There hasn't been a republican elected to President since 1988 with the majority of the vote. Botany Oct 27 #15

Respectfully, four things. Get rid of Citizens United. mjvpi Oct 27 #22

A friend used to work in the editorial dept. of the Greensburg Tribune-Review FreeForm73 Oct 27 #33

I live in Montana. Anytime that I engage a MAGA, I always start with getting money out of politics. mjvpi Oct 27 #66

Expand the Supreme Court. rubbersole Oct 27 #56

I'd put DC and Puerto Rico statehood in the mix mjvpi Oct 27 #64

IMHO Citizens United should go first Tweedy Oct 27 #57

George W. Bush pulled it off in 2004 Gore1FL Oct 27 #24

That was the last time. They've not come anywhere close since. paleotn Oct 27 #27

"Trump got a lower % of the vote in 16 and 20 than Romney got in 12." Polybius Oct 27 #37

In % point variance between winner and loser, yes. In %'s of the total vote, no. paleotn Oct 27 #61

Combined Third Parties were really strong in 2016, combining for 5.7% of the vote (the most since 1996) Polybius Oct 27 #69

And yet here we are COL Mustard Oct 27 #53

w wouldn't have been in the 2004 election if not for the cheating in the 2000 election and I would Botany Oct 27 #49

That was highly debatable because of the shenanigans in Ohio and Florida. n/t valleyrogue Oct 27 #55

Q: Were those results verified? A: No. They couldn't be. Sparkly Oct 27 #63

I'm going with what is recognized in the history books. nt Gore1FL Oct 27 #67

Botany .................. Upthevibe Oct 27 #29

See post 49. Botany Oct 27 #52

I would add #4 Karma13612 Oct 27 #44

Until we control angrychair Oct 27 #16

I believe the OP was talking about an amendment, not a convention JHB Oct 27 #62

I had the same gut feeling when Hilliary ran Beachnutt Oct 27 #36

We'll know soon. Scrivener7 Oct 27 #2

That's a very encouraging take. Elessar Zappa Oct 27 #3

"Nate Silver has fallen" Dennis Donovan Oct 27 #4

I read the Nate Silver piece and I just shook my head. ificandream Oct 27 #19

In short... paleotn Oct 27 #35

I tend to agree with you. ificandream Oct 28 #71

He is now paid by Peter Thiel. Nt spooky3 Oct 27 #54

It's refreshing and helps the anxiety liberal N proud Oct 27 #5

I'll believe it when PA is called for Harris on the evening of Nov. 5th RandomNumbers Oct 27 #6

YES! And maybe GA? Which may take longer oldsoftie Oct 27 #51

If i was any campaign 9 days out id want to be the Harris campaign MistakenLamb Oct 27 #7

"all kinds of white people, both Anglos and Saxons..." Beartracks Oct 27 #8

"Basket of adorables" tinrobot Oct 27 #9

Republican for Kamala sign... Beartracks Oct 27 #10

Yes, it's the non-MAGA Republican vote that's going to put us over Rocknation Oct 27 #20

I read every word of this, Mr.Bill Oct 27 #42

I recommend reading the article. Thanks for posting. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 27 #11

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He should save that cash for cigarettes BaronChocula Oct 27 #47

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This is what struck me, regarding independent men: ananda Oct 27 #14

What a great analysis .... ificandream Oct 27 #17

This is an absolutely excellent article! I have a feeling of inevitability after Dobbs, and believe Harris will PatrickforB Oct 27 #18

Thanks for sharing this! BluRay76 Oct 27 #21

I believe two factors put Kamala over the top. GoodRaisin Oct 27 #23

I believe Abstractartist Oct 27 #25

In 9 days... the author of the linked piece will be a hero or a zero. WarGamer Oct 27 #26

Hillary will win an electoral college landslide RandySF Oct 27 #28

RandySF........ Upthevibe Oct 27 #34

After Comey, you still thought it would be a landslide? Polybius Oct 27 #38

Kamala doesn't think so iemanja Oct 27 #30

I believe she does think so teran Oct 27 #39

We'll see on election night iemanja Oct 27 #43

The M$M ass-kissers are trying to coddle their fat fuck felon Blue Owl Oct 27 #31

So it may turn out that the U.S. has fewer idiots than we thought? Turbineguy Oct 27 #32

Great read, thanks! I shared it with friends. phylny Oct 27 #40

Great article! skylucy Oct 27 #41

Excellent piece, thank you! Wild blueberry Oct 27 #45

He seems to have a good grip on some facts except BaronChocula Oct 27 #46

I think Trump has already begun implementing Plan C Metaphorical Oct 27 #48

Dont know who Stanford is but this confidence is misplaced. oldsoftie Oct 27 #50

This is a great pick-me-up for . . . peggysue2 Oct 27 #58

Thanks for this. nt LAS14 Oct 27 #59

Good analysis. G_KIA Oct 27 #60

I have already started calling her MADAM PRESIDENT! Emile Oct 27 #65

Good Read DownriverDem Oct 27 #68

I'm sure that this must have come up again in discussions here, but I missed it, if it did. BobTheSubgenius Oct 28 #70