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RandySF

(71,149 posts) Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:52 AM Oct 30

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A Texas woman died after the hospital said it would be a crime to intervene in her miscarriage [View all]

Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria.

Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/30/texas-abortion-ban-josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage/

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A Texas woman died after the hospital said it would be a crime to intervene in her miscarriage [View all] RandySF Oct 30 OP

You GD (mostly old ignorant as hell white) men DID this. May they rot in a hell of their own making. hlthe2b Oct 30 #1

Men and Women DID THIS!!! atreides1 Oct 30 #28

I said mostly. If you identify with those MOSTLY old ignorant male legislators who did this then hlthe2b Oct 30 #30

No, you said men did it. Gary 50 Oct 30 #85

Are. You unable to read the word "mostly." Maybe your screen needs to be replaced hlthe2b Oct 30 #91

People who vote Republican did this Jerry2144 Oct 30 #51

Yes! Rebl2 Oct 30 #53

Especially Paxton. ShazzieB Oct 30 #72

Don't blame only the men Dem4life1234 Oct 30 #76

When i lost our twins JustAnotherGen Oct 30 #2

Ohhh. Reading that is wrenching. Thank you for your courage in speaking out, though, JustAnotherGen. hlthe2b Oct 30 #41

Thank you. JustAnotherGen Oct 30 #79

That makes sense. sheshe2 Oct 30 #104

He's bananas! JustAnotherGen Oct 31 #108

I am so very sorry for your loss, JAG. sheshe2 Oct 30 #105

Good god... W_HAMILTON Oct 30 #3

Fucking pure evil what Trump did to that poor woman and her family. SunSeeker Oct 30 #4

I'm Amazed Each And Every Day That The Texas Capital Building Is Not Enshrouded In Pink Clouds Of Mist MayReasonRule Oct 30 #24

Horrible. This is the America we now live in. Doodley Oct 30 #5

our country is starting to feel very third world 4catsmom Oct 30 #89

Josseli Barnica is going to the polls this year to help both men and women do the right thing. Just like Botany Oct 30 #6

Calling Texas barracuda lawyers! raccoon Oct 30 #7

I don't know what is meant by "barracuda lawyer" but I think there's a lawsuit here. TomSlick Oct 30 #95

IMO, Rs made a big mistake messing with Texas women Deminpenn Oct 30 #8

I've seen a few broken families speak, but where are the women of Texas? Where are the protests? Maru Kitteh Oct 30 #47

Silence means approval ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 30 #61

Or fear Hekate Oct 30 #80

Murder Godot51 Oct 30 #9

Exactly! sarchasm Oct 30 #11

I wonder, if someone were to be charged for her death: ecstatic Oct 30 #20

Yes all of the above KS Toronado Oct 30 #25

KEN PAXTON AND GREG ABBOTT! Jilly_in_VA Oct 30 #55

both need to stop processing oxygen verargert Oct 30 #87

Wasting O2 is more like it! Jilly_in_VA Oct 30 #97

It is not the doctor's fault-they are threatened with loss of license and jail time Stargazer99 Oct 30 #59

Solution DENVERPOPS Oct 30 #93

The blame belongs to republicans. Not medical providers. You can't provide care that is unlawful - tulipsandroses Oct 30 #66

This, thank you Hekate Oct 30 #81

Charge them all as accessories dickthegrouch Oct 30 #74

Paxton especially. He'll rot in Hell when he gets there. Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 30 #75

Murder by Christofascist state government. dchill Oct 30 #102

Now *this* is murder. Abortion saves the only lives that matter. Solly Mack Oct 30 #10

To the government officials in Texas Roxi Oct 30 #13

Not just Texas. Solly Mack Oct 30 #14

A few years ago Roxi Oct 30 #16

We have been underestimated for far too long. Solly Mack Oct 30 #21

Yes, we have! Roxi Oct 30 #48

I hope so. Solly Mack Oct 30 #54

I try to be a good person Roxi Oct 30 #12

Simply awful. I hope more people come forward ecstatic Oct 30 #15

Hippocratic oath becomes hypocritical oath? Magoo48 Oct 30 #17

There is no force of law behind the oath. bottomofthehill Oct 30 #23

Yeah it doesn't work that way. I'm a nurse. I can't help people if I'm jailed. Same with the docs. Maru Kitteh Oct 30 #49

Agreed. I'm a nurse practitioner. It seems simple from the outside. But you can't provide care that is not legal tulipsandroses Oct 30 #70

It's hard to blame the doctors Roxi Oct 30 #50

I don't blame doctors at all. Magoo48 Oct 30 #68

Terrible, horrific, tragic, and unnecessary surfered Oct 30 #18

The christian extremists have normalized this outcome just as jeebus would have done wolfie001 Oct 30 #19

It's.... MarcoZandrini Oct 30 #22

It's more than than Texas, bub. marble falls Oct 30 #27

A respectful "this could be your daughter, your sister, your friend, your cousin ... you" ad would be apt and effective. marble falls Oct 30 #26

Sue the legislature and Governor for practicing medicine without a license. Freethinker65 Oct 30 #29

So fucking barbaric Horse with no Name Oct 30 #31

One more thing: ecstatic Oct 30 #32

Welcome to Texas under the white Evangelical Taliban. Lonestarblue Oct 30 #33

They are actually Christian and erasing that erases the role Christianity can play in our society. Calling them a WhiskeyGrinder Oct 30 #36

I may be agnostic, but I would defend only to the extent that it is a bastardized form of Christianity... hlthe2b Oct 30 #43

There are many, many interpretations of Christ's teachings. Some of those who protest outside of abortion clinics say WhiskeyGrinder Oct 30 #44

As there are interpretations of Islam. As one who has worked extensively in the Middle East, I found it fascinating hlthe2b Oct 30 #46

I am a Christian and agree whole heartly with this possible agnostic Stargazer99 Oct 30 #60

If they aren't Christians, what are they? Mariana Oct 30 #52

Women haters and murderers - that describes the people in power in these reich wing states. lark Oct 30 #34

She should have taken a chill pill and had a good laugh. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 30 #35

I don't understand the date. Sept. 3, 2021? Jeebo Oct 30 #37

People died under Roe too. Which is why "going back to Roe" isn't ideal. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 30 #45

I will bet fewer women died under Roe-so don't try to make it not matter Stargazer99 Oct 30 #62

Oh it definitely matters -- it's something people should refuse to settle for as we move forward. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 30 #71

And why wasn't this public during the Dobbs case? LeftInTX Oct 30 #69

Why are we not calling this MURDER? dmr Oct 30 #38

Texas, this is unacceptable ck4829 Oct 30 #39

That could have been my wife. Happy Hoosier Oct 30 #40

Gawd damn 3auld6phart Oct 30 #42

Giving care to her would have endangered doctor's license and threaten jail time-that should never have Stargazer99 Oct 30 #64

Sue the hospital, doctors, and everyone responsible for this. Liberty Belle Oct 30 #56

Dear Goddess claudette Oct 30 #57

This could have been me in GA some years ago. Demsrule86 Oct 30 #58

Sorry to hear of this pfitz59 Oct 30 #92

Honestly, I still tear up when discussing it. I had no idea before this happened to me Demsrule86 Oct 31 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 30 #63

What does that mean? When you miscarry there is no other life at stake other than the Demsrule86 Oct 30 #65

You damn right! Especially if your religious belief doesn't require to flirt with death of a living person Stargazer99 Oct 30 #67

I rec'd your original post and absolutely agree. REC Demsrule86 Oct 30 #73

Beyond horrible DRump and his deplorable Republicans are responsible for these deaths TommieMommy Oct 30 #77

Texas citizens should force a recall of Abbott -- he needs to be thrown out of office. I was watching a barber on TV Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 30 #78

Horrific & unjust on so many levels. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 30 #82

How many people have the rightwing nazis murdered? Gary 50 Oct 30 #83

Kick dalton99a Oct 30 #84

Paxton and Abbott need to die on spikes, with all their associates ! verargert Oct 30 #86

I would sue the crap out of Abbott et al. 4catsmom Oct 30 #88

Murder by depraved indifference to human life. Every Republican who voted for this is guilty. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 30 #90

Josseli Clouds Passing Oct 30 #94

Women: the Throwaway Gender. calimary Oct 30 #96

Time to start suing these hospitals. oldsoftie Oct 30 #98

"Blessed Be The Fruit" Montauk6 Oct 30 #99

May all involved in this horrendous, hate-filled attack on women niyad Oct 30 #100

Sure, there are wmen who have voted for Republicans. There have been some - soldierant Oct 30 #101

oops. oh well. she's black. pansypoo53219 Oct 30 #103

What is happening to women in these States IS Hideous... electric_blue68 Oct 30 #106

Congratulations to all the "pro-life" assholes responsible for this. eShirl Oct 31 #107