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12. I am sorry to hear that

Wed Oct 30, 2024, 05:43 PM

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I am also very sorry to hear about the assault.
Sometimes you have to try to separate people you love from their politics. I don’t advocate for cutting out people you actually love (if they are kind to you and decent in general, but have insane politics).

But I know it is hard. My own strategy is to just avoid politics with people who generally seem nice, but have awful political views. I have met a few people like that where they are genuinely nice people with atrocious views..it usually comes off as the result consumption of poisoned media. I do make a distinction between average people and actual movement people (conservative politicians, activists and media).

I do think people can have insane politics/be very clueless and still not be bad humans so much as kinda stupid in their views. I think one has to believe in the redemption of the less hopeless people. Trump, Musk, Vance..ie all of the GOP politicians and their media/billionaire allies are of course irredeemable.

It is poisoning by the media or cluelessness in most others (that is my hope anyway). It is hard to buy that a full third to a half of humanity are that awful all the way. (I am not saying people with awful views are awesome. Just not irredeemable in a less brainwashed-by-media society. I definitely do not mean it in the hideous Steven Pinker/Jonathan Haidt moronic, Panglossian conservative way “ All people are good and have awesome ideas! Somehow the planet inexplicably sucks!” It is just that one hopes with better education and less pap, humans could be a less stupid species. ).

All that said, it is hard to listen to such views.
Hang in there. You have your DU family to unburden to.

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DEEPLY disappointed...to the point of tears. [View all] TSExile Oct 30 OP

You didn't go wrong. They did. Aristus Oct 30 #1

Did you tell her to Ontheboundry Oct 30 #4

Yeah. She's a sexual assault survivor, and her parents are voting for a rapist. Aristus Oct 30 #8

That's the OP's decision soandso Oct 30 #16

Of course it's her choice. Which I clearly recognized in my post. Aristus Oct 30 #19

That's all very nice soandso Oct 30 #20

Nice job 👍 NT Tickle Oct 30 #21

I don't need to imagine it; she spelled it out for us. Aristus Oct 30 #22

Sighhhh. Perhaps you could read that first response again, since you seem to have niyad Oct 30 #27

I did read it soandso Oct 30 #33

Do keep trying. niyad Oct 30 #36

What's your point? soandso Oct 30 #39

Re-read your own post, and then ask yourself, what is YOUR point?? Jack Valentino Oct 30 #40

She/he offered options, my reading of it. Dan Oct 30 #23

It's the same blind allegiance as with predator priests. BattleRow Oct 30 #32

That must hurt like hell. 3catwoman3 Oct 30 #2

I am so sorry BlueKota Oct 30 #3

" It's not the party of Lincoln and Ike anymore and hasn't been for decades." Different Drummer Oct 30 #5

Have you been able to tell them why them choosing a sexual assaulter/rapist is so painful for you? I sure understand if MLAA Oct 30 #6

First of all, please know that you are not alone. Coventina Oct 30 #7

Thank you... TSExile Oct 31 #41

The Republican cult is all about blame. Dems are all about service and responsibility to self and others. usonian Oct 30 #9

Think of it this way soandso Oct 30 #10

Smother them with kindness. usonian Oct 30 #11

Yeah,Raygun could do no wrong in my father in laws eyes. Conjuay Oct 30 #24

Yeah - soldierant Oct 30 #30

I am sorry to hear that jfz9580m Oct 30 #12

What is the greater good? The Grand Illuminist Oct 30 #13

You did not go wrong. They have a right to vote as they wish and all you can do is advise them. totodeinhere Oct 30 #14

even before dementia is diagnosed, flexibility of thinking declines with age and poor health harumph Oct 30 #15

You didn't go wrong. bdamomma Oct 30 #17

Sad. They sound like they're full of every other...ism in the book. In regards to VP Harris... brush Oct 30 #18

You didnt. Joinfortmill Oct 30 #25

For me, I just have some relationships where politics is set aside... Mark.b2 Oct 30 #26

re: "For some reason I cannot understand, neither parent likes them." thesquanderer Oct 30 #28

There are a lot of family maga's that disappoint me and frankly I no longer trust them nor care to be around them yaesu Oct 30 #29

TSExile... you didn't go wrong... slightlv Oct 30 #31

Luckily, my parents aren't like that. mdbl Oct 30 #34

did you remind your mom what she said in 2022, that she'd never vote for trump again? orleans Oct 30 #35

I'm going to guess this is a result of hours and hours of propaganda being pumped right into Liberal In Texas Oct 30 #37

Here's what's really weird. TSExile Oct 30 #38

As a fellow childless catlady I hear you jfz9580m Oct 31 #43

May I ask what state they are in? Polybius Oct 31 #42

No, thankfully. TSExile Oct 31 #46

You didn't go wrong. They didn't go wrong. DeepWinter Oct 31 #44

Have you seen the documentary 'The Brainwashing of my Dad'? mackdaddy Oct 31 #45