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whathehell

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94. Yes, they are

Sun Nov 3, 2024, 06:11 PM

Nov 3

and I believe they're doing the right thing.

In terms of its effectiveness, I frankly think the whole practice of "reclaiming", or "owning" an insult as a way to 'defuse' it is exaggerated. It's worked in one or two instances, but is not, imo, a reliable strategy.
I'd guess that part of its appeal, lies in its being easy..It takes far less work than actually constructing an actual ARGUMENT against the use of demeaning terms. Instead of engaging in that kind of sometimes rigorous effort, one just opts to take an insult and "wear it"..I believe it fails more often than it succeeds.

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Inspiring MadameButterfly Nov 2 #3

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Cross gently, Jane. Dennis Donovan Nov 2 #5

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Priceless. Hope22 Nov 2 #7

... littlemissmartypants Nov 2 #8

..not a fan of misogynist "humor" whathehell Nov 2 #9

? She threw the insult at Mr. Trump Tweedy Nov 2 #10

The "insult" is a misogynist slur regardless whathehell Nov 2 #11

Bless your heart. Orrex Nov 3 #16

Bless yours, dear. whathehell Nov 3 #25

It MIGHT be time to read the room. dchill Nov 3 #106

It might be time to LEAVE the room.. whathehell Nov 3 #111

Bless your heart! dchill Nov 3 #113

It's more like reclaiming it imo jfz9580m Nov 3 #17

I learned about owning an 'insult' from The Vagina Monologues duhneece Nov 3 #27

"And her sense of humor as she faced dying." jfz9580m Nov 3 #28

I told my kids that, after I tell them that I love them and all that, duhneece Nov 3 #29

That's a good one :).nt jfz9580m Nov 3 #31

In Britain, it's not seen as saying anything about women muriel_volestrangler Nov 3 #20

That's Scotland, not the US Violet_Crumble Nov 3 #21

No kidding whathehell Nov 3 #24

Nah. She wasn't insulting women. Tweedy Nov 3 #35

Actually in the UK the word is universally used about men. TexLaProgressive Nov 3 #78

Yes, but the insult is contained in depicting whathehell Nov 3 #89

It's a big word in their culture. Envirogal Nov 3 #98

I think that's unfortunate.. whathehell Nov 3 #101

It's not a gender slur in the uk moonshinegnomie Nov 3 #107

I live in Scotland. I have never heard anyone in the UK use it aimed at a woman. I have heard Americans do that. n/t Emrys Nov 3 #110

Bye. orangecrush Nov 2 #13

Bye! whathehell Nov 2 #14

I respect your H2O Man Nov 2 #15

I don't use them either True Dough Nov 3 #22

Amd black communities are now asking the younger generation to please move off that word LizBeth Nov 3 #74

Yes, they are whathehell Nov 3 #94

Again, I respect H2O Man Nov 3 #99

I appreciate your respectful response, H20 Man, whathehell Nov 3 #100

Thank you! H2O Man Nov 3 #103

She's Scots DoBotherMe Nov 3 #18

Lol, the pearl clutching Tarc Nov 3 #33

Lol..Not "pearl clutching", dear whathehell Nov 3 #34

Meh...TOS or not this OP isn't going anywhere. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #38

Um, no..There's no "TOS or not" on this board whathehell Nov 3 #40

I think you'll be alright. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #41

Lol..Yeah, I guess that is all you've got. whathehell Nov 3 #48

I'm not sure how to react to your attempts to police the speech of others. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #49

"Trump is a cunt" Tarc Nov 3 #39

Lol..Yeah, you know enough whathehell Nov 3 #88

Post removed Post removed Nov 3 #116

Perhaps you could maybe lighten up a little. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #50

Lol..Should we "lighten up" about racial slurs too? whathehell Nov 3 #55

Is the subject of this thread racial slurs? BannonsLiver Nov 3 #56

No, I'd say it's rather obviously about gender slurs. whathehell Nov 3 #62

Oh, you're back! BannonsLiver Nov 3 #63

You e obviously never been to the UK BannonsLiver Nov 3 #36

Lol..You obviously know squat about me.. whathehell Nov 3 #44

Here again, you'll be alright. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #46

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lol BannonsLiver Nov 3 #52

Lol..Sure, when you can't argue on the merits, whathehell Nov 3 #59

What merits do you think you were arguing? BannonsLiver Nov 3 #60

Lol...You can keep trying whathehell Nov 3 #64

You think freaking out over a woman calling Trump the C word is rational discourse? BannonsLiver Nov 3 #67

Scotland is better when it comes to women's rights issues. I think this is a cultural thing JI7 Nov 3 #37

Cultural difference Nasruddin Nov 3 #104

I feel like the C-Word in Europe is interpreted differently than in the US. Self Esteem Nov 3 #105

It's not just Europe. Australia and New Zealand as well Violet_Crumble Nov 3 #117

God love her orangecrush Nov 2 #12

Rest in Peace Doctor Janey Godley 🙏 iluvtennis Nov 3 #19

Dr Godley, you lived your life well right to the end. Rest in Peace and Joy. Fla Dem Nov 3 #23

RIP republianmushroom Nov 3 #26

oh my--that is King Charles....... riversedge Nov 3 #57

Sandford Police: From all of us at @Sandford_Police we are sending our thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.. demmiblue Nov 3 #30

RIP Bitbit Nov 3 #32

Elon Musk called Harris this. It is vile. We know it is. I dont care how UK feels about the word LizBeth Nov 3 #42

I respect Dr Godley BannonsLiver Nov 3 #43

I can respect her and also understand the harm she does with this word. LizBeth Nov 3 #45

I think that's a bit sanctimonious, tbh. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #47

Sure silly ole sexist slurs that have hurt women and girls forever.... LizBeth Nov 3 #68

Context is important in this case. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #70

No. You hearing anyone saying that with the n word.... EVER? LizBeth Nov 3 #71

This thread isn't about racial slurs. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #72

It is about calling out the bigotry and for me when challenge, the hypocrisy we wrap it up in. LizBeth Nov 3 #73

So you think Dr Godley was a bigot? BannonsLiver Nov 3 #75

She used a bigoted sexist term to insult Trump which was ultimately insulting LizBeth Nov 3 #77

As I said regarding Elmo BannonsLiver Nov 3 #79

If you think she misinterpreted the ramifications then I'm afraid you've got a lot to learn about the Scots. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #80

Or maybe understand misogyny to the point not only world wide but US girls and women LizBeth Nov 3 #81

I'm sorry you feel that way but respect your position. BannonsLiver Nov 3 #83

It's not treated that way in the uk moonshinegnomie Nov 3 #109

THANK You!...Amazing that someone finally admits it whathehell Nov 3 #61

Makes me sanctimonious.... dontcha know. Won't heat a single excuse or dismissal using bigotry LizBeth Nov 3 #69

Yes, "sanctimony" my ass -- You're absolutely right whathehell Nov 3 #95

Sure. Anytime. LizBeth Nov 3 #114

Well done malaise Nov 3 #53

Excellent Faux pas Nov 3 #54

I think Traildogbob Nov 3 #58

Anarchy Princess stands up to MAGAts in Pennsylvania with her tribute to Janey Godley DrivingOnThe Left Nov 3 #65

The Scots have some good insults for Trump keithbvadu2 Nov 3 #66

Such endearing names for a person who says everyone loves me. 😆 Deuxcents Nov 3 #91

In this context it is not misogynist why the hell do we have to bleep it Eliot Rosewater Nov 3 #76

And the n word is not really about blacks, just inferior cause we are hearing white people calling LizBeth Nov 3 #82

No, the N-word is isn't meant one thing here and a different thing everywhere else Eliot Rosewater Nov 3 #84

Nor is this word, the insult itself is the sexism of the word. LizBeth Nov 3 #85

I think some people have a problem with context. JanMichael Nov 3 #86

When was the original photo taken? JanMichael Nov 3 #87

It was in 2016 muriel_volestrangler Nov 3 #93

I honor the passing of a brave woman, and an icon. Harker Nov 3 #90

Would republicans use that word around children? keithbvadu2 Nov 3 #92

A saint! surfered Nov 3 #96

Anthony Bourdain met her in his Glasgow episode: *watch* IcyPeas Nov 3 #97

The term has a different context/meaning in the U.K. CentralMass Nov 3 #102

The French word "con" has a very similar dual meaning. n/t Emrys Nov 3 #112

Was it established first pertaining to women then manifested to men? LizBeth Nov 3 #115

Yes DENVERPOPS Nov 3 #108