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64. If he legitimately won, then begrudgingly

Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:25 AM

Nov 4

However I think the operant word is legitimately. I think if he had any legitimate chance the polls would show him clearly ahead. Right now he's propped up like a sock puppet by a media that has done everything they could to make him seem inevitable, and he is still losing steam. His coalition is not holding together, there's no excitement there. He also wouldn't be signaling like crazy to his Nazi base if he thought he could win.

Thus I would likely be part of the resistance if he wins, because the only way he does is by subverting the system so completely that elections become meaniness.

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If Trump "wins," would you accept him as your president? He didn't accept Obama or Biden as legitimate presidents. [View all] Doodley Nov 4 OP

F NO! usaf-vet Nov 4 #1

Never accepted him the first time. Never been, will not be. marble falls Nov 4 #2

I'd have to accept him as human first, piddyprints Nov 4 #3

NEVER. TSExile Nov 4 #4

Yes DeepWinter Nov 4 #5

And if Trump dismantles our Democracy, destroys our alliances, and turns us into a rogue state? Doodley Nov 4 #11

hyperbole DeepWinter Nov 4 #14

Have you not heard Trump's own words,? Have you not heard of Project 2025? When Trump openly worships Doodley Nov 4 #20

And the fact that there will be No Guardrails in his potential WH staff to surpress, deflect his worse impulses... electric_blue68 Nov 4 #23

It would be a living nightmare. The America we know will be over. Doodley Nov 4 #31

It could be argued that a few hundred thousand didn't survive Trump. MrsCoffee Nov 4 #97

ah, another June 28th joiner NoRethugFriends Nov 4 #65

If he wins with a minimum of shenanigans. I'm kind of forced to. haele Nov 4 #83

We do NOT live in a Democracy...it is a Representative Republic. Moostache Nov 4 #101

Never, and if he wins the chaos and instability will... brush Nov 4 #6

He isn't going to win angrychair Nov 4 #7

I hope you're right. nt KarenS Nov 4 #9

What does "accepting" him look like? FBaggins Nov 4 #8

Accepting him as president means accepting everything that Trump is, a divider, a racist, a fascist, an xenophobe, a Doodley Nov 4 #15

That doesn't really answer the question FBaggins Nov 4 #33

"Just following orders," was the Nuremberg defence. Doodley Nov 4 #35

So you will refuse to obey any law signed by trump if he wins? onenote Nov 4 #38

If laws change that unfairly threaten our persecute others, I will choose not to follow them. Doodley Nov 4 #77

Can you only debate straw men? FBaggins Nov 4 #41

people in this thread arguing over fictional situations edisdead Nov 4 #46

"Why put democrats on record as little different from what they actually oppose?" I haven't done that. Doodley Nov 4 #74

Nope PJMcK Nov 4 #10

It doesn't matter whether or not I accept him. KarenS Nov 4 #12

Exactly. JohnSJ Nov 4 #17

Nailed it DeepWinter Nov 4 #19

Yep. My opinion is not going to matter to anyone. Walleye Nov 4 #54

Exactly sarisataka Nov 4 #90

hell no samnsara Nov 4 #13

It won't matter. The country and its democracy will be over. It may not happen immediately or for some time, but it JohnSJ Nov 4 #16

Exactly. I don't know how anyone can think it will be okay. Doodley Nov 4 #21

Let me be clear: RedSpartan Nov 4 #18

Would we have any other choice? Kaleva Nov 4 #22

So, the LGBTQ community should accept increased discrimination, women should accept men making decisions for them, Doodley Nov 4 #28

"Do nothing?" Who is suggesting we do nothing? onenote Nov 4 #45

Good answer. I agree. Doodley Nov 4 #84

Yes Kaleva Nov 4 #87

So what actions will you take that will show you don't accept him? Kaleva Nov 4 #67

For starters, I pledge not to follow any new laws that unfairly threaten others. Doodley Nov 4 #81

What laws would those be and how would you not accept them? Kaleva Nov 4 #91

For example, if a law is passed that states you must report any undocumented immigrants that you know of. Doodley Nov 4 #92

That's an action one who accepts Trump as president could take Kaleva Nov 4 #94

"What will you do" TommyT139 Nov 4 #86

No sinkingfeeling Nov 4 #24

Even MAGA will reject him when the bills come due and the money stops bucolic_frolic Nov 4 #25

Those same predictions were made by some here in 2016. onenote Nov 4 #42

No. lees1975 Nov 4 #26

No. For starters, he'll chuck "president" and go straight to "tsar." Vinca Nov 4 #27

NO. I never did in 2016, and would not, could not in 2024. Silver Gaia Nov 4 #29

Accepting it or not ain't gonna change the taste of mustard. Torchlight Nov 4 #30

America will be dead to me. aeromanKC Nov 4 #32

This orangecrush Nov 4 #48

NO! BlueKota Nov 4 #34

To quote Luke Skywalker Best_man23 Nov 4 #36

Accepting isn't the same as "following". onenote Nov 4 #40

I don't have a choice. We only have one president at a time doc03 Nov 4 #37

It doesn't matter if we accept it or not. TwilightZone Nov 4 #39

Doesn't Much Matter RobinA Nov 4 #43

Absolutely NOT. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 4 #44

President Biden still has 2 months Alice Kramden Nov 4 #47

?? In no sense does he have unlimited power FBaggins Nov 4 #53

Amazing how people have absolutely no clue about what that ruling said AZSkiffyGeek Nov 4 #69

Hopefully it will all be a moot bad dream come Wednesday -nt FBaggins Nov 4 #73

No samsingh Nov 4 #49

Accept? Yes. At least provisionaly. Embrace? Never. Happy Hoosier Nov 4 #50

"Insurrectionists" can't be POTUS Kid Berwyn Nov 4 #51

Never ever! lark Nov 4 #52

No way.😡 TommieMommy Nov 4 #55

If he seizes power through unlawful means Orrex Nov 4 #56

What choice do you have Fullduplexxx Nov 4 #57

Putin would own the White House ....so, FDT & slava Ukraine DoBW Nov 4 #58

America would effectively be part of Russia. Doodley Nov 4 #71

No, it's gonna be a fight if he becomes president oldmanlynn Nov 4 #59

It won't matter if you accept him or not. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 4 #60

Absolutely not. He is already cheating and trying to mess with voting. (again!) hadEnuf Nov 4 #61

He isn't running for president philf99 Nov 4 #62

Thank you for putting it in the correct perspective. Doodley Nov 4 #70

Yes, if he wins the election. -misanthroptimist Nov 4 #63

If he legitimately won, then begrudgingly Metaphorical Nov 4 #64

Didn't last time he resided in the WH AKwannabe Nov 4 #66

Would expect a recount and not accepted at this time. Brainfodder Nov 4 #68

I didn't the first time EnergizedLib Nov 4 #72

If he verifiably gets more votes than Harris, I see no choice. DFW Nov 4 #75

I think you are really asking if we will be "good Germans" and what that means Maeve Nov 4 #76

I don't think he'll be president long. Turbineguy Nov 4 #78

Exactly tavernier Nov 4 #106

He is not winning... HarryM Nov 4 #79

If he legitimately wins Mz Pip Nov 4 #80

Fuck no! nt Hotler Nov 4 #82

Nah. I'll resist. yardwork Nov 4 #85

Not no... NEOH Nov 4 #88

NO WAY Emile Nov 4 #89

No but... droidamus2 Nov 4 #93

No. I can't think of any reason why I should. Ping Tung Nov 4 #95

I will accept that he won the election unless there is an extremely compelling reason not to. RandomNumbers Nov 4 #96

I will work within the system pfitz59 Nov 4 #98

No--just like the last time, it's a temporary takeover by lunatics. Wingus Dingus Nov 4 #99

I wouldn't accept him as my garbage man 20895DEM Nov 4 #100

Well, I wouldn't call him "President" mvd Nov 4 #102

No need to worry. Kamala has this. PennRalphie Nov 4 #103

Hell no! Initech Nov 4 #104

no RJ_MacReady Nov 4 #105