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JohnSJ

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27. 2016 was a direct result of what comey did, and the MSM 11 days before the election having every right wing pundit
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 06:34 AM
Nov 5

across their outlets pushing the LIE that the email investigation was reopened.

Late Friday, the weekend before the general election, Comey quietly came out and said there was nothing new found on the laptop, and nothing to justify reopening the case. The press barely covered it, but the damage was done by then. Hillary had 4-5 point lead before Comey, and that was completely erased after Comey.

The willful ignoring of that event in 2016 by the media and the pollsters to push the myth that the republicans were "under-represented" in 2016, to justify that they now add "weighting factors" to account for "under-represented" republicans, is nonsense.

That being said, I honestly do not think anyone has any idea how this will turnout. In a normal world, with all of trump's hate, lies, bigotry, he wouldn't even stand a chance, but this is no longer a normal world, where trump and his racism, sexism, and bigotry has been normalized with the help of social media platforms and the MSM.

The biggest issue I think that has never been answered is how to account for people who do not answer calls from numbers they do not recognize because of all the scams, and I suspect that is even more prevalent now than it was in 2016, and represents a significant number.

I also think there are a good number of people who are not to eager to provide information which some may consider private to a caller who claims to be a "legitimate" pollster. I don't anyway.



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You'll be sorry you asked ColinC Nov 4 #1
South Carolina too Tribetime Nov 4 #3
This is a little too optimistic IMHO FakeNoose Nov 4 #8
From your keyboard to all the Divine Ones. May it be so irisblue Nov 4 #18
Maybe I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but I think she's done the campaign job necessary to convince the lees1975 Nov 4 #2
Interesting how the 2 "looks bleak" voters have account registrations within 20 minutes of each other on June 28 stumpysbear Nov 4 #4
I am nervously optimistic. TomSlick Nov 4 #5
ME too Jerry2144 Nov 4 #7
Very Confident lrymcqueen Nov 4 #6
Yep - these are the same things I've been saying since the beginning of the year FakeNoose Nov 4 #16
Harris will walk away with this leftstreet Nov 4 #9
You didn't really capture my position. qwlauren35 Nov 4 #10
I'm the same. beaglelover Nov 4 #12
I agree. missaj Nov 4 #19
Me in 2016: "Trump will never in a million years set foot in the White House", SO ...... I'm nervous as hell. groundloop Nov 4 #21
I don't think it's that bleak. qwlauren35 Nov 4 #22
2016 was a direct result of what comey did, and the MSM 11 days before the election having every right wing pundit JohnSJ Nov 5 #27
I'm very cautious. In 2016 I was EllieBC Nov 4 #11
This:🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 oasis Nov 4 #13
Hopeful iemanja Nov 4 #14
I'd go with "don't know what to think" right now... durablend Nov 4 #15
Confident but still nervous AF. Initech Nov 4 #17
THIS Mike 03 Nov 5 #28
270-280 Electoral Votes Polybius Nov 4 #20
I havent looked at the map. LeftInTX Nov 5 #25
For those who are haunted by 2016. lrymcqueen Nov 5 #23
I "give up" if we have another 2016 LeftInTX Nov 5 #24
I'm going with absolute certainty intrepidity Nov 5 #26
I have to admit, I'm really, really nervous RazorbackExpat Nov 5 #29
I am very confident that VP Harris/Gov Waltz will be the next President/VP of the USA this election. I will be akbacchus_BC Nov 5 #30
Generational change election... Feels like 1992 JCMach1 Nov 5 #31
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