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Ms. Toad

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44. So you think this was a surprise to her?

Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:52 PM

Nov 6

Just because much of DU was wearing rose-colored glasses doesn't mean she was. Yes she had her game face on in public, but I can guarantee you that behind the scenes she knew exactly what she was up against.

What was hiding in plain sight was what some of us have been saying: pocketbook economy - her turn to the real hardships much of our traditional base was experiencing came too late, and too little. Same for her attention to the suffering our money/Biden's policies in the middle east were causing. Too little, too late. I was deeply disappointed in her exclusion of a Palestinian speaker at the convention - and the continued assumption that they, and those troubled by out contribution to their suffering, would realize that Trump would be worse. 22% for Stein in Dearborn. Let that sink in.

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100% there's something went **VERY** wrong with the Harris data team. [View all] uponit7771 Nov 6 OP

There was never any secret. TwilightZone Nov 6 #1

Trump, like Rudy, is a big mouth ... he let the cat out a couple of times in public. My angst is why how did Harris data uponit7771 Nov 6 #4

Harris was down in all the polls for a long time. I always was a bit leery about her winning. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 6 #56

Putin. Consider how desperate trump had to be to avoid jail at any cost. Putin. The Ninga Nov 6 #16

This is why voting on Election Day is not good. Hope22 Nov 6 #31

It happened! Ninga Nov 6 #33

Her internals were not favorable LeftInTX Nov 6 #64

Does seem fishy based on what was said to be record breaking turnout. kerouac2 Nov 6 #2

The EV turnout is part of the problem, ... I want to talk to someone about it but don't know any other politicos that do uponit7771 Nov 6 #7

We are all depressed and frustrated, but unless there is evidence, its over. JohnSJ Nov 6 #3

It's over even if there is evidence on video, Merrick wont do shit uponit7771 Nov 6 #9

Excuse me. You are absolutely right. She has already conceded. JohnSJ Nov 6 #10

Mika rec'd an email from someone who has done a lot of canvassing over the years & said that they had never encountered Native Nov 6 #5

How many voters believed that Haitian newcomers were eating Ohio's neighborhood cats? Wingus Dingus Nov 6 #21

I think that's correct. TikTok and X. LisaM Nov 6 #37

I have a former friend who is plugged deep in MAGA AZSkiffyGeek Nov 6 #55

Curious kenziemom06 Nov 6 #57

Dems killed a squirrel AZSkiffyGeek Nov 6 #58

The owners squirrel Peanut was a TicToc star womanofthehills Nov 6 #65

And the misinformation appeals to a certain bias in vulnerable voters. ananda Nov 6 #53

The secret is that a majority of the country is racist, bigoted and misogynst Orrex Nov 6 #6

See this video from Jen O'Malley Dillon rogerballard Nov 6 #8

Painful BeyondGeography Nov 6 #12

Thanx !! I'm going to put this in the report ... hmmm, just ... a mystery uponit7771 Nov 6 #14

What I don't understand Libtastic Nov 6 #11

That's part of the problem, Occam's razor would point to human error but ... again, its 2025 no, they knew months ago. uponit7771 Nov 6 #13

Maybe the missing votes were mib's trapped in the postal system? getagrip_already Nov 6 #19

damn ... that'd be some shit right there, Dejoy was tryna take the mibs sideways the last time ... wouldn't be shocked uponit7771 Nov 6 #20

Cali Libtastic Nov 6 #25

Absentee-mail-in-ballots-postal-service-delays ultralite001 Nov 6 #59

I refuse to brakester Nov 6 #34

a lot of them haven't been counted yet, like from CA LymphocyteLover Nov 6 #29

Some of my Facebook friends said they were not voting womanofthehills Nov 6 #35

Geez. Well if TFG gets his way, they may never have to think about voting again Raven123 Nov 6 #52

A coworker of mine voted for Stein because of Gaza NYC Liberal Nov 6 #62

How is Gaza Biden's fault? LisaM Nov 6 #63

I dont knownif anything nefarious happened but there mustvhave been something wrong ColinC Nov 6 #15

lol RIGHT !!! This is what I'm saying, they didn't pull ANY ... ANY significant Haley voters ?! REALLY ?! uponit7771 Nov 6 #17

Its weird. But also a mystery in behavior. So many questions and i am reallt fascinated by it ColinC Nov 6 #18

No mail-in voting nationally this year, no COVID, voter apathy. valleyrogue Nov 6 #22

Yes, I've been posting about this all day about MIB but they alarm bells in TO should've went off months ago ... uponit7771 Nov 6 #23

It is great to live up here after years in Nevada valleyrogue Nov 6 #45

i did not understand this post. Very cryptic. Please explain. Amaryllis Nov 6 #24

They missed data that's in front of their faces and everyone here can see one of them being lack of mail in ballots. uponit7771 Nov 6 #27

And where are the 14 million voters? alarimer Nov 6 #26

One theory is no MIB but that would've been a tell months before election day, the signal might have been clear but ... uponit7771 Nov 6 #28

Does MIB mean Management Information Base? ancianita Nov 6 #38

Mail In Ballots Ligyron Nov 6 #40

Ah. Okay. Thank you. ancianita Nov 6 #43

Voter purges -18 million, per the Brennan Center TheRickles Nov 6 #42

WHOA !! uponit7771 Nov 6 #49

Yes, millions of voters stayed home. valleyrogue Nov 6 #46

Ever think Russia helped Bozo? apcalc Nov 6 #30

100% there's something very wrong with half the people in this country. ananda Nov 6 #32

Thank you. I appreciate the way you're thinking about this. ancianita Nov 6 #36

I see you've moved on to the "Bargaining" stage of grief. notroot Nov 6 #39

I cracked up! Ligyron Nov 6 #41

Unnnn, I'm placing the onus on the Harris campaign though. I would like to know what the miss was, its 2025 data abound uponit7771 Nov 6 #48

So you think this was a surprise to her? Ms. Toad Nov 6 #44

Yes, seeing there were other strategies to get MIBs out uponit7771 Nov 6 #47

"I don't want to start a CT" iemanja Nov 6 #50

Either millions of Dems decided not to vote RussBLib Nov 6 #51

RawStory had a pre-election article that the ground game wasn't all it was cracked up to be SomedayKindaLove Nov 6 #54

Her ralies were filled up bluestarone Nov 6 #60

They had the money, but they fell into Trump's trap to paint Kamala as a continuation of Joe andym Nov 6 #61