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NorCalBlue

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12. I used to be a Republican. I disagree

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:02 AM

Nov 8

I switched under W. Bush.

It happened because some of my spouted “feelings” were stupid and those around me called me on it. Some even laughed at me.

I was young and dumb. It made me wonder if they were right. I realized they were. And I became a Democrat.

Thanks Mom for being one of those people. I know you’re reading this.

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I see so many posts calling the voters who didn't support Harris "stupid" [View all] onenote Nov 8 OP

What do we need to win them over for? LisaL Nov 8 #1

I get the despair. But I'm confident you are wrong. onenote Nov 8 #4

Why? thinkingagain Nov 8 #90

I honestly can't wait until this initial panic and doomsdaying is over... AkFemDem Nov 9 #129

The House, the Senate, and the White House elleng Nov 8 #5

And the courts TexLaProgressive Nov 8 #26

And the corrupt SCOTUS 6. We are screwed. I'm keeping my head down and hoping to ride it out. brush Nov 9 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author The Third Doctor Nov 8 #83

Maybe not stupid Mz Pip Nov 8 #2

There's a difference? Xoan Nov 8 #75

they are pretending none of the Trump crimes/trials were real. travelingthrulife Nov 8 #3

Yes SARose Nov 8 #65

MALICIOUS..... CONTEMPTUOUS.... magicarpet Nov 9 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 8 #6

I don't want to make excuses for them... Ysabel Nov 8 #7

Yea, that's the ticket Strelnikov_ Nov 8 #8

Hmmm AfternoonJoe Nov 8 #9

You're assuming... tgraf66 Nov 9 #104

Not necessarily stupid, but... Tigerpal Nov 8 #10

No PhilosopherKing Nov 8 #50

Questions FSogol Nov 8 #11

Because the republicans will make an effort to tell them we're calling them stupid. onenote Nov 8 #37

Who cares. yardwork Nov 8 #45

I guess folks that have no plans for winning an election going forward don't care. onenote Nov 8 #52

If read my posts here you'll see that I'm not giving up. yardwork Nov 8 #55

We need to lean into the stupid and run a straight white male with charisma. This is all a Tik Tok show now Pisces Nov 9 #120

They'll tell them that anyway. They told them Biden called them garbage which wasn't true. n/t FSogol Nov 8 #49

It was true soandso Nov 9 #145

Unfortunately, it was true - Biden's exact words are all over social media womanofthehills Nov 9 #159

I used to be a Republican. I disagree NorCalBlue Nov 8 #12

Thank you for sharing a real example. yardwork Nov 8 #47

Talking to people we know that didn't support Harris is a terrific start. onenote Nov 8 #63

You haven't read your own thread if this is the first positive suggestion you've seen. yardwork Nov 8 #70

Okay. Point taken. But most people seem more interested in disagreeing with me than suggesting a strategy onenote Nov 8 #72

I think we're all tired, discouraged, and worried. yardwork Nov 8 #73

Thx, yardwork, and best of luck Hekate Nov 9 #123

Talk to them about what? Devils, idiots, and traitors. TheKentuckian Nov 9 #98

Same thing happened to me, and I now thank them Meadowoak Nov 8 #64

So they're dumb. Emile Nov 9 #122

Anyone who voted for Trump instead of Harris IS stupid. milestogo Nov 8 #13

So what is your strategy for winning elections? onenote Nov 8 #39

If we ever get another shot at a presidential election, Meadowoak Nov 8 #67

We got Barack Obama, a man. Then Trump defeated Hillary, a woman. Trump lost to Joe, a man. Then... Hekate Nov 9 #127

This might be true, but Obama was one in a million. I'm not sure I would want to risk Scrivener7 Nov 9 #167

I agree with you.! Stupid, stupid. Trueblue1968 Nov 9 #125

WE. ARE. NEVER. GOING. TO. WIN. THEM. TO. OUR. SIDE. Yavin4 Nov 8 #14

Thank you. A voice of sanity. harumph Nov 8 #15

MAGA is so stupid they can not fathom the ramifications of their,... magicarpet Nov 9 #146

Exactly. StarryNite Nov 8 #16

They may have not seen all of this. LeftInTX Nov 8 #24

You realize a whole lot of them voted for Biden in 2020. They switched and they might switch back onenote Nov 8 #41

Did they? You have data showing that? n/t Yavin4 Nov 8 #58

Yes. From the exit polls onenote Nov 9 #160

IMO, anyone who voted Biden in 2020 and switched HAS to be stupid... consider_this Nov 8 #79

Then why are Trump's numbers flat? dpibel Nov 9 #110

Links. Data or it didn't happen. hatrack Nov 9 #117

See post #160. onenote Nov 9 #161

The strategy is to run a white middle-aged straight protestant male. Scrivener7 Nov 9 #138

Trump got around the same number of votes in 2020 and 2024 soandso Nov 9 #149

That's a very simplistic -- and incorrect -- analysis. onenote Nov 9 #162

I'm saying his numbers (number of votes) soandso Nov 9 #164

No one is talking about TheFarseer Nov 8 #78

This group needs a white middle-aged protestant straight male. Scrivener7 Nov 9 #139

I think we need to think outside of identity politics TheFarseer Nov 9 #165

Identity politics is what lost us this election. Sad as it makes us, some Democrats and democratically aligned voters Scrivener7 Nov 9 #166

That depends entirely on which "Them" we're talking about Zeitghost Nov 9 #100

THOSE voters, the ones who voted for Biden and then Scrivener7 Nov 9 #142

Fuck them !!! SamKnause Nov 8 #17

how about cruel and selfish. Quiet Em Nov 8 #18

What would you call people who blamed Emile Nov 8 #19

Or Biden For RobinA Nov 8 #53

Ironic, isn't it? That's precisely one of the factors that lost the race... WarGamer Nov 8 #20

I agree DeepWinter Nov 8 #21

I'm with you (sorta) but do you honestly think ANYTHING would have brought them to our side? hlthe2b Nov 8 #22

Probably not in this election. I think the result was baked in early on. onenote Nov 8 #48

Post removed Post removed Nov 9 #101

They are not reading du Meowmee Nov 9 #109

What else do you call people who have to learn everything the hard way... hunter Nov 8 #23

Yes? PhilosopherKing Nov 8 #25

They are - aren't they? claudette Nov 8 #27

When will someone lecture the fascist about calling us names? Hotler Nov 8 #28

Thank you MustLoveBeagles Nov 8 #40

The bogus scolds are their duplicitous allies. TheKentuckian Nov 9 #105

I don't need to resort to name calling; just sit back and watch the Trump presidency play out. patphil Nov 8 #29

Sadly, not as many as should. Xavier Breath Nov 8 #36

Yeah, I left that as an open question, even though I already knew the answer. patphil Nov 8 #69

I'm sure many of them held their noses for trump, because they were desperate. Omnipresent Nov 8 #30

Desperate for what? viva la Nov 8 #88

They somehow think he's going to help them lower housing costs, for one thing Omnipresent Nov 9 #91

He does usually find a way to ease the terrible tax plight viva la Nov 9 #94

Nonfuckingsense. No one on Earth can point to a damn thing he has on TheKentuckian Nov 9 #118

Is ignorant or blissfully ignorant better? Ferrets are Cool Nov 8 #31

It's certainly not helpful. orange jar Nov 8 #32

Blaming the voters means our Party leaders don't have to explain what went wrong. We really saw this in 2016. jalan48 Nov 8 #33

Can't really explain what the problems are orange jar Nov 8 #38

They are busy blaming each other! Fish700 Nov 9 #95

I wouldn't call them stupid. I would call them people who had no problem supporting a racist, sexist, bigot, JohnSJ Nov 8 #34

I was going to reply kacekwl Nov 8 #62

As my tweenager said many moons ago about adults: GreenWave Nov 8 #35

Masochists sound better? Emile Nov 8 #42

Are we allowed to hold Trump supporters to the same standard? yardwork Nov 8 #43

Thank you! K&R Emile Nov 8 #44

Here's the choice: it's either "stupid," or it's . . . markpkessinger Nov 8 #46

For crying out loud! blue cat Nov 8 #51

"Policing"? Since when is expressing an opinion on DU "policing". onenote Nov 8 #56

I don't care about them JustAnotherGen Nov 8 #54

Honestly, a lot are. Happy Hoosier Nov 8 #57

They were. My progressive idealist son was one of them. Freethinker65 Nov 8 #59

They call everyone one else worse. Truth hurts. Blue Full Moon Nov 8 #60

It's a statement of fact. They are stupid. flvegan Nov 8 #61

Hmmm Lotusflower70 Nov 8 #66

Misidentifying who you're dealing with isn't a long term strategy for success. RockRaven Nov 8 #68

I'm not worried about the venting for another week or so. badhair77 Nov 8 #71

From the past.... Behind the Aegis Nov 8 #74

That never, ever gets old Hekate Nov 9 #150

I would call them gullible. zanana1 Nov 8 #76

The way I'd treat them EnergizedLib Nov 8 #77

They won't listen Keepthesoulalive Nov 9 #132

Stupid is the LPBBEAR Nov 8 #80

If someone voted for the Orange Antichrist, they're either Wingus Dingus Nov 8 #81

In a democracy, the stupid have a voice. Wouldn't be a Democracy if it were otherwise. Sucks sometimes. Silent Type Nov 8 #82

Calling them stupid is giving them the benefit of the doubt Blaukraut Nov 8 #84

Calling them stupid is still being civil The Third Doctor Nov 8 #85

It works for Trump...obviously. Us Dems tend to be more civil than the GOP but it must not work? walkingman Nov 8 #86

The definition of stupid mnhtnbb Nov 8 #87

Calling them "stupid"? Rigpa108 Nov 8 #89

no one said it was a long term strategy for success, but if you voted for the traitorous rapist, YOU'RE STUPID krawhitham Nov 9 #92

Stupid is mild to what I think. Deluded wanna be fascists is more like it nini Nov 9 #93

Calling them stupid is not name-calling. Iggo Nov 9 #96

Zzzzzz Oopsie Daisy Nov 9 #97

I call them stupid fucking Nazis Zorro Nov 9 #99

Stupid is being generous. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 9 #102

So what are they? Smart? LisaM Nov 9 #103

They're greedy cowards, bullies, and bigots. haele Nov 9 #156

The only way we will ever reach these people Ruby the Liberal Nov 9 #106

I bet Neville Chamberlain thought, "you know, we just need to win those Nazis over to our way of thinking". LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #107

... Prairie Gates Nov 9 #108

Cause they are dumb as fuck Dem4life1234 Nov 9 #111

I am not sure anyone actually called them stupid Marigold Nov 9 #112

Shall we "reach out" to them? More interviews in diners in the NYT? Pat them on the head? hatrack Nov 9 #113

73 million podcasts exploring the Maga voter. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 9 #140

Pretty much Hekate Nov 9 #154

Other apt adjectives are: shortsighted, simplistic, deluded, misinformed, shallow and selfish wishstar Nov 9 #114

Stupid is as stupid does. LisaL Nov 9 #115

How do you win over someone who thinks the earth is flat? Cartoonist Nov 9 #116

We are a stupid, stupid country. It began decades ago with the dumbing down of public education... Hekate Nov 9 #119

They are never going to be on our "side" ismnotwasm Nov 9 #121

This! radical noodle Nov 9 #135

By the end of the first year of the Trump reign of terror, they'll be calling themselves stupid. Vinca Nov 9 #124

They're stupid, so they will find a way to blame us Hassler Nov 9 #136

Nope. They will be misdirected to blame others. Voltaire2 Nov 9 #141

They will blame Democrats Hekate Nov 9 #155

"Stupid" is the kindest possible interpretation of their actions 0rganism Nov 9 #126

If they are not stupid then they are evil. The charitable thing is to assign stupidity as their major malfunction. Blues Heron Nov 9 #128

They called some of their own supporters worse than stupid. Rhiagel Nov 9 #130

Stupid? Somewhat. Racist, misogynist and white suppremacist? For sure... brush Nov 9 #133

What do they call us? radical noodle Nov 9 #134

A) They're stupid. B) Us calling them stupid or us Scrivener7 Nov 9 #137

Not stupid. Racist and misogynist. alarimer Nov 9 #143

I'm sick of caring BigMin28 Nov 9 #144

With everything they call us, I'm B.See Nov 9 #147

I think that the main flips were based on immigration and transgender ads JanMichael Nov 9 #148

I'm treating them like adults RandySF Nov 9 #151

Many tRump supporters are indeed stupid, willfully so. Sibelius Fan Nov 9 #152

They knew what the stakes were. They practiced malicious inaction. They don't get a pass from me. Efilroft Sul Nov 9 #153

A large portion of them ARE. Captain Zero Nov 9 #157

Let me fix that for you. Why don't we go with unenlightened or racist or sexist or all of the above. Native Nov 9 #163

The alternative to "stupid" is worse. maxsolomon Nov 10 #168