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34. I wouldn't call them stupid. I would call them people who had no problem supporting a racist, sexist, bigot,

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:31 AM

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who incited people to try to overthrow the government.

There is no white-washing about that . It is who they are.

The view that "some of them supported Biden" is meaningless. The fact that election was extremely close that could have gone either way, doesn't mean there was strong support for him in the first place.

As for trying to "win" them over to "our side". If things go the way I suspect they will, trump and his thugs will do that job quite effectively as they find the world of trump isn't quite as "rosy" as they thought it would be. It may be too late by then for some of them, like it was during the mishandling of the pandemic.

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I see so many posts calling the voters who didn't support Harris "stupid" [View all] onenote Friday OP

What do we need to win them over for? LisaL Friday #1

I get the despair. But I'm confident you are wrong. onenote Friday #4

Why? thinkingagain Friday #90

I honestly can't wait until this initial panic and doomsdaying is over... AkFemDem Saturday #129

The House, the Senate, and the White House elleng Friday #5

And the courts TexLaProgressive Friday #26

And the corrupt SCOTUS 6. We are screwed. I'm keeping my head down and hoping to ride it out. brush Saturday #158

This message was self-deleted by its author The Third Doctor Friday #83

Maybe not stupid Mz Pip Friday #2

There's a difference? Xoan Friday #75

they are pretending none of the Trump crimes/trials were real. travelingthrulife Friday #3

Yes SARose Friday #65

MALICIOUS..... CONTEMPTUOUS.... magicarpet Saturday #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #6

I don't want to make excuses for them... Ysabel Friday #7

Yea, that's the ticket Strelnikov_ Friday #8

Hmmm AfternoonJoe Friday #9

You're assuming... tgraf66 Saturday #104

Not necessarily stupid, but... Tigerpal Friday #10

No PhilosopherKing Friday #50

Questions FSogol Friday #11

Because the republicans will make an effort to tell them we're calling them stupid. onenote Friday #37

Who cares. yardwork Friday #45

I guess folks that have no plans for winning an election going forward don't care. onenote Friday #52

If read my posts here you'll see that I'm not giving up. yardwork Friday #55

We need to lean into the stupid and run a straight white male with charisma. This is all a Tik Tok show now Pisces Saturday #120

They'll tell them that anyway. They told them Biden called them garbage which wasn't true. n/t FSogol Friday #49

It was true soandso Saturday #145

Unfortunately, it was true - Biden's exact words are all over social media womanofthehills Saturday #159

I used to be a Republican. I disagree NorCalBlue Friday #12

Thank you for sharing a real example. yardwork Friday #47

Talking to people we know that didn't support Harris is a terrific start. onenote Friday #63

You haven't read your own thread if this is the first positive suggestion you've seen. yardwork Friday #70

Okay. Point taken. But most people seem more interested in disagreeing with me than suggesting a strategy onenote Friday #72

I think we're all tired, discouraged, and worried. yardwork Friday #73

Thx, yardwork, and best of luck Hekate Saturday #123

Talk to them about what? Devils, idiots, and traitors. TheKentuckian Saturday #98

Same thing happened to me, and I now thank them Meadowoak Friday #64

So they're dumb. Emile Saturday #122

Anyone who voted for Trump instead of Harris IS stupid. milestogo Friday #13

So what is your strategy for winning elections? onenote Friday #39

If we ever get another shot at a presidential election, Meadowoak Friday #67

We got Barack Obama, a man. Then Trump defeated Hillary, a woman. Trump lost to Joe, a man. Then... Hekate Saturday #127

This might be true, but Obama was one in a million. I'm not sure I would want to risk Scrivener7 Saturday #167

I agree with you.! Stupid, stupid. Trueblue1968 Saturday #125

WE. ARE. NEVER. GOING. TO. WIN. THEM. TO. OUR. SIDE. Yavin4 Friday #14

Thank you. A voice of sanity. harumph Friday #15

MAGA is so stupid they can not fathom the ramifications of their,... magicarpet Saturday #146

Exactly. StarryNite Friday #16

They may have not seen all of this. LeftInTX Friday #24

You realize a whole lot of them voted for Biden in 2020. They switched and they might switch back onenote Friday #41

Did they? You have data showing that? n/t Yavin4 Friday #58

Yes. From the exit polls onenote Saturday #160

IMO, anyone who voted Biden in 2020 and switched HAS to be stupid... consider_this Friday #79

Then why are Trump's numbers flat? dpibel Saturday #110

Links. Data or it didn't happen. hatrack Saturday #117

See post #160. onenote Saturday #161

The strategy is to run a white middle-aged straight protestant male. Scrivener7 Saturday #138

Trump got around the same number of votes in 2020 and 2024 soandso Saturday #149

That's a very simplistic -- and incorrect -- analysis. onenote Saturday #162

I'm saying his numbers (number of votes) soandso Saturday #164

No one is talking about TheFarseer Friday #78

This group needs a white middle-aged protestant straight male. Scrivener7 Saturday #139

I think we need to think outside of identity politics TheFarseer Saturday #165

Identity politics is what lost us this election. Sad as it makes us, some Democrats and democratically aligned voters Scrivener7 Saturday #166

That depends entirely on which "Them" we're talking about Zeitghost Saturday #100

THOSE voters, the ones who voted for Biden and then Scrivener7 Saturday #142

Fuck them !!! SamKnause Friday #17

how about cruel and selfish. Quiet Em Friday #18

What would you call people who blamed Emile Friday #19

Or Biden For RobinA Friday #53

Ironic, isn't it? That's precisely one of the factors that lost the race... WarGamer Friday #20

I agree DeepWinter Friday #21

I'm with you (sorta) but do you honestly think ANYTHING would have brought them to our side? hlthe2b Friday #22

Probably not in this election. I think the result was baked in early on. onenote Friday #48

Post removed Post removed Saturday #101

They are not reading du Meowmee Saturday #109

What else do you call people who have to learn everything the hard way... hunter Friday #23

Yes? PhilosopherKing Friday #25

They are - aren't they? claudette Friday #27

When will someone lecture the fascist about calling us names? Hotler Friday #28

Thank you MustLoveBeagles Friday #40

The bogus scolds are their duplicitous allies. TheKentuckian Saturday #105

I don't need to resort to name calling; just sit back and watch the Trump presidency play out. patphil Friday #29

Sadly, not as many as should. Xavier Breath Friday #36

Yeah, I left that as an open question, even though I already knew the answer. patphil Friday #69

I'm sure many of them held their noses for trump, because they were desperate. Omnipresent Friday #30

Desperate for what? viva la Friday #88

They somehow think he's going to help them lower housing costs, for one thing Omnipresent Saturday #91

He does usually find a way to ease the terrible tax plight viva la Saturday #94

Nonfuckingsense. No one on Earth can point to a damn thing he has on TheKentuckian Saturday #118

Is ignorant or blissfully ignorant better? Ferrets are Cool Friday #31

It's certainly not helpful. orange jar Friday #32

Blaming the voters means our Party leaders don't have to explain what went wrong. We really saw this in 2016. jalan48 Friday #33

Can't really explain what the problems are orange jar Friday #38

They are busy blaming each other! Fish700 Saturday #95

I wouldn't call them stupid. I would call them people who had no problem supporting a racist, sexist, bigot, JohnSJ Friday #34

I was going to reply kacekwl Friday #62

As my tweenager said many moons ago about adults: GreenWave Friday #35

Masochists sound better? Emile Friday #42

Are we allowed to hold Trump supporters to the same standard? yardwork Friday #43

Thank you! K&R Emile Friday #44

Here's the choice: it's either "stupid," or it's . . . markpkessinger Friday #46

For crying out loud! blue cat Friday #51

"Policing"? Since when is expressing an opinion on DU "policing". onenote Friday #56

I don't care about them JustAnotherGen Friday #54

Honestly, a lot are. Happy Hoosier Friday #57

They were. My progressive idealist son was one of them. Freethinker65 Friday #59

They call everyone one else worse. Truth hurts. Blue Full Moon Friday #60

It's a statement of fact. They are stupid. flvegan Friday #61

Hmmm Lotusflower70 Friday #66

Misidentifying who you're dealing with isn't a long term strategy for success. RockRaven Friday #68

I'm not worried about the venting for another week or so. badhair77 Friday #71

From the past.... Behind the Aegis Friday #74

That never, ever gets old Hekate Saturday #150

I would call them gullible. zanana1 Friday #76

The way I'd treat them EnergizedLib Friday #77

They won't listen Keepthesoulalive Saturday #132

Stupid is the LPBBEAR Friday #80

If someone voted for the Orange Antichrist, they're either Wingus Dingus Friday #81

In a democracy, the stupid have a voice. Wouldn't be a Democracy if it were otherwise. Sucks sometimes. Silent Type Friday #82

Calling them stupid is giving them the benefit of the doubt Blaukraut Friday #84

Calling them stupid is still being civil The Third Doctor Friday #85

It works for Trump...obviously. Us Dems tend to be more civil than the GOP but it must not work? walkingman Friday #86

The definition of stupid mnhtnbb Friday #87

Calling them "stupid"? Rigpa108 Friday #89

no one said it was a long term strategy for success, but if you voted for the traitorous rapist, YOU'RE STUPID krawhitham Saturday #92

Stupid is mild to what I think. Deluded wanna be fascists is more like it nini Saturday #93

Calling them stupid is not name-calling. Iggo Saturday #96

Zzzzzz Oopsie Daisy Saturday #97

I call them stupid fucking Nazis Zorro Saturday #99

Stupid is being generous. Nt. Voltaire2 Saturday #102

So what are they? Smart? LisaM Saturday #103

They're greedy cowards, bullies, and bigots. haele Saturday #156

The only way we will ever reach these people Ruby the Liberal Saturday #106

I bet Neville Chamberlain thought, "you know, we just need to win those Nazis over to our way of thinking". LudwigPastorius Saturday #107

... Prairie Gates Saturday #108

Cause they are dumb as fuck Dem4life1234 Saturday #111

I am not sure anyone actually called them stupid Marigold Saturday #112

Shall we "reach out" to them? More interviews in diners in the NYT? Pat them on the head? hatrack Saturday #113

73 million podcasts exploring the Maga voter. Nt. Voltaire2 Saturday #140

Pretty much Hekate Saturday #154

Other apt adjectives are: shortsighted, simplistic, deluded, misinformed, shallow and selfish wishstar Saturday #114

Stupid is as stupid does. LisaL Saturday #115

How do you win over someone who thinks the earth is flat? Cartoonist Saturday #116

We are a stupid, stupid country. It began decades ago with the dumbing down of public education... Hekate Saturday #119

They are never going to be on our "side" ismnotwasm Saturday #121

This! radical noodle Saturday #135

By the end of the first year of the Trump reign of terror, they'll be calling themselves stupid. Vinca Saturday #124

They're stupid, so they will find a way to blame us Hassler Saturday #136

Nope. They will be misdirected to blame others. Voltaire2 Saturday #141

They will blame Democrats Hekate Saturday #155

"Stupid" is the kindest possible interpretation of their actions 0rganism Saturday #126

If they are not stupid then they are evil. The charitable thing is to assign stupidity as their major malfunction. Blues Heron Saturday #128

They called some of their own supporters worse than stupid. Rhiagel Saturday #130

Stupid? Somewhat. Racist, misogynist and white suppremacist? For sure... brush Saturday #133

What do they call us? radical noodle Saturday #134

A) They're stupid. B) Us calling them stupid or us Scrivener7 Saturday #137

Not stupid. Racist and misogynist. alarimer Saturday #143

I'm sick of caring BigMin28 Saturday #144

With everything they call us, I'm B.See Saturday #147

I think that the main flips were based on immigration and transgender ads JanMichael Saturday #148

I'm treating them like adults RandySF Saturday #151

Many tRump supporters are indeed stupid, willfully so. Sibelius Fan Saturday #152

They knew what the stakes were. They practiced malicious inaction. They don't get a pass from me. Efilroft Sul Saturday #153

A large portion of them ARE. Captain Zero Saturday #157

Let me fix that for you. Why don't we go with unenlightened or racist or sexist or all of the above. Native Saturday #163

The alternative to "stupid" is worse. maxsolomon Sunday #168