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summer_in_TX

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117. The oligarchs have heavy investments in RW media.

Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:15 AM

Nov 9

Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.

https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-fox

This is the year in which it became obvious that the right-wing media has more power than the mainstream media. It’s not just that it’s bigger. It’s that it speaks with one voice, and that voice says Democrats and liberals are treasonous elitists who hate you, and Republicans and conservatives love God and country and are your last line of defense against your son coming home from school your daughter.

And that is why Donald Trump won. Indeed, the right-wing media is why he exists in our political lives in the first place.

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Want A Reason Why Kamala Lost That Makes Sense [View all] gab13by13 Nov 8 OP

I blame the people who voted for Trump. Pure and simple. Walleye Nov 8 #1

You can add they Democrats who didn't bother to vote. Fish700 Nov 8 #6

Especially those who never received their absentee ballots. quaint Nov 8 #46

Oh yes, they deserve a large part of the blame Walleye Nov 8 #51

Same. I just wonder mountain grammy Nov 8 #84

You hit the nail on the head. COL Mustard Nov 8 #88

The only hope I held on to mountain grammy Nov 8 #91

Counting hasn't finished yet... druidity33 Nov 9 #121

I blame the oligarchs who brainwashed the people into voting for TSF Wicked Blue Nov 8 #41

Psychiatrists have concluded DENVERPOPS Nov 8 #111

That happened to a brother-in-law Wicked Blue Nov 9 #122

Exactly. Nobody put a gun to anyone's head to vote for trump. JohnSJ Nov 8 #76

I think the cake was baked long before she took the reins. Jk23 Nov 8 #2

This is one of many reasons. When you add up ALL the reasons, it is no surprise that she lost. Ferrets are Cool Nov 8 #3

So do I gab13by13 Nov 8 #8

Yep Ferrets are Cool Nov 8 #17

Bingo, Watson. Alas, the quarry is nigh, the hunt is on! jaxexpat Nov 8 #34

Me too BonnieJW Nov 8 #85

I don't agree that it was stolen. COL Mustard Nov 8 #89

Well oligarchs only have so many votes. She actually had more campaign money than Trump. ratchiweenie Nov 8 #4

Do we know that oligarchs only have so many votes? Who knows what these rich, psychotic travelingthrulife Nov 8 #9

Well, we have no way of knowing that except according to the vote tabulations, more Independents voted than ratchiweenie Nov 8 #14

Yep, it was an uphill battle from the start. LisaL Nov 8 #10

She was outspent happy feet Nov 8 #18

Dump had way more dark money according to Thom Hartmann and others Clouds Passing Nov 8 #52

Money that we know about Wicked Blue Nov 9 #123

There is no single reason for the loss. TwilightZone Nov 8 #5

Hillary would have blown Trump away with the turnout that Harris had. LisaL Nov 8 #12

Last minute, Ron Paul agreed to be a consultant for Elon/ Trump womanofthehills Nov 8 #37

In 2020, people were confined at home and had not much to do... Justice matters. Nov 8 #77

We are a divided nation. Over half the people voted for him over her. Autumn Nov 8 #7

Winner Winner, chicken-flavored dinner! BoRaGard Nov 8 #11

Not even chicken flavored. You'll be told it's chicken flavored. haele Nov 8 #38

I think you consistent thesis of justice delayed malaise Nov 8 #13

Here's my take as well MagickMuffin Nov 8 #15

100% agree. Katinfl Nov 8 #29

She had one serious flaw as a candidate Freddie Nov 8 #58

I think she ran a great campaign but somehow what she said, Tadpole Raisin Nov 8 #16

It's the economy. PennRalphie Nov 8 #19

Yes I'm in PA, and I never saw so many negative ads in my life FakeNoose Nov 8 #86

I think you're right moose65 Nov 8 #98

Excellent observation! And don't forget Russia ... ananda Nov 8 #20

All blame is unless at this point. How we gonna resist? How many ways can we come up with to block their Nazi plans. Magoo48 Nov 8 #21

"Fuck the narratives that blame Democrats." liberalla Nov 8 #22

non traditional media, targeting of immigrant communities with propaganda in their language dsp3000 Nov 8 #23

she promised to so something about guns. mopinko Nov 8 #24

They cheated. Botany Nov 8 #25

I feel the same. liberalla Nov 8 #33

Trump and Musk are way dirty. Botany Nov 8 #35

I do remember that. Last week I posted about something similar that he said, liberalla Nov 8 #67

I agree with the OP. I'm seeing a lot of what you are saying on Twitter underpants Nov 8 #80

I agree that they cheated. THEY cheated. NT CommonHumanity Nov 8 #107

It's simpler than that relayerbob Nov 8 #26

Well as Citizens United was called by SCOTUS, corporations Tadpole Raisin Nov 8 #28

We have vote per dollar rather than one person one vote. Trust_Reality Nov 8 #55

Folks keep saying dumbed down exboyfil Nov 8 #60

Some people are just assholes. :shrug: Lucky Luciano Nov 8 #90

The fact that you personally happen to know some educated Trump supporters... Karasu Nov 9 #120

Allen Lichtman Explains Why His Prediction Was Wrong the_liberal_grandpa Nov 8 #27

Yah, 1 key. Give me a break. He'd be better not explaining himself or Tadpole Raisin Nov 8 #30

The American people have exceedingly short memories UpInArms Nov 8 #31

This makes total sense to me. You could hardly miss that media rurallib Nov 8 #32

She lost to because of latino men that voted for tsf...60% of them. 18% of white men PortTack Nov 8 #36

Lesson to be learned... Trust_Reality Nov 8 #49

Lesson to be learned Trust_Reality Nov 8 #50

This is the root cause. hay rick Nov 8 #39

I don't disagree... Unca Jim Nov 8 #40

The system is rigged in favor of big money. Trust_Reality Nov 8 #48

Agree 100% Wicked Blue Nov 8 #42

Eggs are too expensive. mac56 Nov 8 #43

lol, it's like the people who buy houses and then scream they can't pay their Tadpole Raisin Nov 8 #63

I'll continue to be a broken record. hadEnuf Nov 8 #44

It's also the wrong answer Zeitghost Nov 8 #75

The main media has mostly been taken over by the right. hadEnuf Nov 8 #99

I agree 100% that democrats are not to blame but i think Persondem Nov 8 #45

Keeping it simple... Trust_Reality Nov 8 #47

Yeah I personally blame the billionaire scumbags like Jeff Bezos. Initech Nov 8 #53

Everyone who voted for Trump knew exactly what they were getting Fish700 Nov 8 #110

That all sounds good, blueknight73 Nov 8 #54

Racism, lack of empathy, sexism, transphobia, anti-immigrant, and anti woke crowd. KYBlue Nov 8 #56

Exactly this LearnedHand Nov 8 #57

DEADLINE WHITEHOUSE uncovers REAL REASON Why Kamala Lost - Nicole Wallace MSNBC revealing Insights LetMyPeopleVote Nov 8 #59

Post removed Post removed Nov 8 #61

Poor witto Eloon moondust Nov 8 #62

Kamala lost because Biden had a low approval rating and she's mzmolly Nov 8 #64

Doesn't matter nowforever Nov 8 #65

It comes down to this: Kamala wasn't willing to give the microphone a blowjob. nt LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 8 #66

One thing she should have really screamed about Be The Light Nov 8 #68

When the midterms come around KS Toronado Nov 8 #69

THIS wichita Nov 8 #114

Welcome to DU wichita KS Toronado Nov 9 #118

I won't hear of it. barbtries Nov 8 #70

And, she didn't attack trump with lies liberal N proud Nov 8 #71

Gaza protesters that sat out or went for Stein, Trump wolfie001 Nov 8 #72

FEAR theplayer Nov 8 #73

Money and power closed ranks. The last thing they want is a strong AG bucolic_frolic Nov 8 #74

Ask yourself this: Why did the middle class vote for Trump? iemanja Nov 8 #78

Why? theplayer Nov 8 #79

They also voted based on a 20% increase in the cost of goods iemanja Nov 8 #81

You said it exboyfil Nov 8 #96

I believe religion was a huge factor. Mariana Nov 8 #103

Most of these responses fail badly to realize one important thing Zeitghost Nov 8 #82

Day 1 of Biden administration exboyfil Nov 8 #93

I refuse to blame Democrats. llmart Nov 8 #83

Cognitive Dissonance. TBF Nov 8 #87

Did she take on these things? I must have missed that. Bluetus Nov 8 #92

Reason: Botany Nov 8 #94

I was thinking because Dark Brandon thumbed his nose at said oligarchs and picked his Veep Montauk6 Nov 8 #95

Gavin would have gotten smoked as well exboyfil Nov 8 #97

voter.purges southmost Nov 8 #100

A couple other things Nasruddin Nov 8 #101

That's only one reason. She might have done what you say, but the working class didn't believe her. ancianita Nov 8 #102

Forgetting.... BurnDoubt Nov 8 #104

The reason is standing right out front. aka-chmeee Nov 8 #105

I agree...Kamala and her supporters did everything they could... Trueblue Texan Nov 8 #106

There are essentially two reasons anamnua Nov 8 #108

Harris's Ad Team Failed residentcynic Nov 8 #109

I blame musk for polluting social media eith fslse claims Tribetime Nov 8 #112

K&R spanone Nov 8 #113

It's not that simple iemanja Nov 8 #115

That's not a reason Baggies Nov 9 #116

The oligarchs have heavy investments in RW media. summer_in_TX Nov 9 #117

Kinda reminds me of Bernie Sanders Yellowdog-1966 Nov 9 #119

they cheated oldinmtdem92 Nov 9 #124

That's why they spent so much money Bettie Nov 9 #125

She ran a near perfect campaign sky_masterson Nov 9 #126

What does claudette Nov 9 #127

I don't believe they ran a flawless campaign unlike many others here MichMan Nov 9 #128

Why? lonely bird Nov 9 #129

Crime Pays. Rhiagel Nov 9 #130