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133. Stupid? Somewhat. Racist, misogynist and white suppremacist? For sure...

Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:23 PM

Nov 2024

and why do we want to win over racist, misogynistic and white suppremacists? They've shown us who they are and as Maya Angelou advised us long ago, when people do that, believe them.

They've set the country on a path to fascism and we just have to ride it out and hope we haven't descended into a modern version of 1930s Germany.

A nation gets the leader it deserves, and apparently more than half of us chose a narcissistic, racist, misogynist and white supremacist pig.

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I see so many posts calling the voters who didn't support Harris "stupid" [View all] onenote Nov 2024 OP

What do we need to win them over for? LisaL Nov 2024 #1

I get the despair. But I'm confident you are wrong. onenote Nov 2024 #4

Why? thinkingagain Nov 2024 #90

I honestly can't wait until this initial panic and doomsdaying is over... AkFemDem Nov 2024 #129

The House, the Senate, and the White House elleng Nov 2024 #5

And the courts TexLaProgressive Nov 2024 #26

And the corrupt SCOTUS 6. We are screwed. I'm keeping my head down and hoping to ride it out. brush Nov 2024 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author The Third Doctor Nov 2024 #83

Maybe not stupid Mz Pip Nov 2024 #2

There's a difference? Xoan Nov 2024 #75

they are pretending none of the Trump crimes/trials were real. travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #3

Yes SARose Nov 2024 #65

MALICIOUS..... CONTEMPTUOUS.... magicarpet Nov 2024 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #6

I don't want to make excuses for them... Ysabel Nov 2024 #7

Yea, that's the ticket Strelnikov_ Nov 2024 #8

Hmmm AfternoonJoe Nov 2024 #9

You're assuming... tgraf66 Nov 2024 #104

Not necessarily stupid, but... Tigerpal Nov 2024 #10

No PhilosopherKing Nov 2024 #50

Questions FSogol Nov 2024 #11

Because the republicans will make an effort to tell them we're calling them stupid. onenote Nov 2024 #37

Who cares. yardwork Nov 2024 #45

I guess folks that have no plans for winning an election going forward don't care. onenote Nov 2024 #52

If read my posts here you'll see that I'm not giving up. yardwork Nov 2024 #55

We need to lean into the stupid and run a straight white male with charisma. This is all a Tik Tok show now Pisces Nov 2024 #120

They'll tell them that anyway. They told them Biden called them garbage which wasn't true. n/t FSogol Nov 2024 #49

It was true soandso Nov 2024 #145

Unfortunately, it was true - Biden's exact words are all over social media womanofthehills Nov 2024 #159

I used to be a Republican. I disagree NorCalBlue Nov 2024 #12

Thank you for sharing a real example. yardwork Nov 2024 #47

Talking to people we know that didn't support Harris is a terrific start. onenote Nov 2024 #63

You haven't read your own thread if this is the first positive suggestion you've seen. yardwork Nov 2024 #70

Okay. Point taken. But most people seem more interested in disagreeing with me than suggesting a strategy onenote Nov 2024 #72

I think we're all tired, discouraged, and worried. yardwork Nov 2024 #73

Thx, yardwork, and best of luck Hekate Nov 2024 #123

Talk to them about what? Devils, idiots, and traitors. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #98

Same thing happened to me, and I now thank them Meadowoak Nov 2024 #64

So they're dumb. Emile Nov 2024 #122

Anyone who voted for Trump instead of Harris IS stupid. milestogo Nov 2024 #13

So what is your strategy for winning elections? onenote Nov 2024 #39

If we ever get another shot at a presidential election, Meadowoak Nov 2024 #67

We got Barack Obama, a man. Then Trump defeated Hillary, a woman. Trump lost to Joe, a man. Then... Hekate Nov 2024 #127

This might be true, but Obama was one in a million. I'm not sure I would want to risk Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #167

I agree with you.! Stupid, stupid. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #125

WE. ARE. NEVER. GOING. TO. WIN. THEM. TO. OUR. SIDE. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #14

Thank you. A voice of sanity. harumph Nov 2024 #15

MAGA is so stupid they can not fathom the ramifications of their,... magicarpet Nov 2024 #146

Exactly. StarryNite Nov 2024 #16

They may have not seen all of this. LeftInTX Nov 2024 #24

You realize a whole lot of them voted for Biden in 2020. They switched and they might switch back onenote Nov 2024 #41

Did they? You have data showing that? n/t Yavin4 Nov 2024 #58

Yes. From the exit polls onenote Nov 2024 #160

IMO, anyone who voted Biden in 2020 and switched HAS to be stupid... consider_this Nov 2024 #79

Then why are Trump's numbers flat? dpibel Nov 2024 #110

Links. Data or it didn't happen. hatrack Nov 2024 #117

See post #160. onenote Nov 2024 #161

The strategy is to run a white middle-aged straight protestant male. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #138

Trump got around the same number of votes in 2020 and 2024 soandso Nov 2024 #149

That's a very simplistic -- and incorrect -- analysis. onenote Nov 2024 #162

I'm saying his numbers (number of votes) soandso Nov 2024 #164

No one is talking about TheFarseer Nov 2024 #78

This group needs a white middle-aged protestant straight male. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #139

I think we need to think outside of identity politics TheFarseer Nov 2024 #165

Identity politics is what lost us this election. Sad as it makes us, some Democrats and democratically aligned voters Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #166

That depends entirely on which "Them" we're talking about Zeitghost Nov 2024 #100

THOSE voters, the ones who voted for Biden and then Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #142

Fuck them !!! SamKnause Nov 2024 #17

how about cruel and selfish. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #18

What would you call people who blamed Emile Nov 2024 #19

Or Biden For RobinA Nov 2024 #53

Ironic, isn't it? That's precisely one of the factors that lost the race... WarGamer Nov 2024 #20

I agree DeepWinter Nov 2024 #21

I'm with you (sorta) but do you honestly think ANYTHING would have brought them to our side? hlthe2b Nov 2024 #22

Probably not in this election. I think the result was baked in early on. onenote Nov 2024 #48

Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #101

They are not reading du Meowmee Nov 2024 #109

What else do you call people who have to learn everything the hard way... hunter Nov 2024 #23

Yes? PhilosopherKing Nov 2024 #25

They are - aren't they? claudette Nov 2024 #27

When will someone lecture the fascist about calling us names? Hotler Nov 2024 #28

Thank you MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #40

The bogus scolds are their duplicitous allies. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #105

I don't need to resort to name calling; just sit back and watch the Trump presidency play out. patphil Nov 2024 #29

Sadly, not as many as should. Xavier Breath Nov 2024 #36

Yeah, I left that as an open question, even though I already knew the answer. patphil Nov 2024 #69

I'm sure many of them held their noses for trump, because they were desperate. Omnipresent Nov 2024 #30

Desperate for what? viva la Nov 2024 #88

They somehow think he's going to help them lower housing costs, for one thing Omnipresent Nov 2024 #91

He does usually find a way to ease the terrible tax plight viva la Nov 2024 #94

Nonfuckingsense. No one on Earth can point to a damn thing he has on TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #118

Is ignorant or blissfully ignorant better? Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #31

It's certainly not helpful. orange jar Nov 2024 #32

Blaming the voters means our Party leaders don't have to explain what went wrong. We really saw this in 2016. jalan48 Nov 2024 #33

Can't really explain what the problems are orange jar Nov 2024 #38

They are busy blaming each other! Fish700 Nov 2024 #95

I wouldn't call them stupid. I would call them people who had no problem supporting a racist, sexist, bigot, JohnSJ Nov 2024 #34

I was going to reply kacekwl Nov 2024 #62

As my tweenager said many moons ago about adults: GreenWave Nov 2024 #35

Masochists sound better? Emile Nov 2024 #42

Are we allowed to hold Trump supporters to the same standard? yardwork Nov 2024 #43

Thank you! K&R Emile Nov 2024 #44

Here's the choice: it's either "stupid," or it's . . . markpkessinger Nov 2024 #46

For crying out loud! blue cat Nov 2024 #51

"Policing"? Since when is expressing an opinion on DU "policing". onenote Nov 2024 #56

I don't care about them JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #54

Honestly, a lot are. Happy Hoosier Nov 2024 #57

They were. My progressive idealist son was one of them. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #59

They call everyone one else worse. Truth hurts. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #60

It's a statement of fact. They are stupid. flvegan Nov 2024 #61

Hmmm Lotusflower70 Nov 2024 #66

Misidentifying who you're dealing with isn't a long term strategy for success. RockRaven Nov 2024 #68

I'm not worried about the venting for another week or so. badhair77 Nov 2024 #71

From the past.... Behind the Aegis Nov 2024 #74

That never, ever gets old Hekate Nov 2024 #150

I would call them gullible. zanana1 Nov 2024 #76

The way I'd treat them EnergizedLib Nov 2024 #77

They won't listen Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #132

Stupid is the LPBBEAR Nov 2024 #80

If someone voted for the Orange Antichrist, they're either Wingus Dingus Nov 2024 #81

In a democracy, the stupid have a voice. Wouldn't be a Democracy if it were otherwise. Sucks sometimes. Silent Type Nov 2024 #82

Calling them stupid is giving them the benefit of the doubt Blaukraut Nov 2024 #84

Calling them stupid is still being civil The Third Doctor Nov 2024 #85

It works for Trump...obviously. Us Dems tend to be more civil than the GOP but it must not work? walkingman Nov 2024 #86

The definition of stupid mnhtnbb Nov 2024 #87

Calling them "stupid"? Rigpa108 Nov 2024 #89

no one said it was a long term strategy for success, but if you voted for the traitorous rapist, YOU'RE STUPID krawhitham Nov 2024 #92

Stupid is mild to what I think. Deluded wanna be fascists is more like it nini Nov 2024 #93

Calling them stupid is not name-calling. Iggo Nov 2024 #96

Zzzzzz Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 #97

I call them stupid fucking Nazis Zorro Nov 2024 #99

Stupid is being generous. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #102

So what are they? Smart? LisaM Nov 2024 #103

They're greedy cowards, bullies, and bigots. haele Nov 2024 #156

The only way we will ever reach these people Ruby the Liberal Nov 2024 #106

I bet Neville Chamberlain thought, "you know, we just need to win those Nazis over to our way of thinking". LudwigPastorius Nov 2024 #107

... Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #108

Cause they are dumb as fuck Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #111

I am not sure anyone actually called them stupid Marigold Nov 2024 #112

Shall we "reach out" to them? More interviews in diners in the NYT? Pat them on the head? hatrack Nov 2024 #113

73 million podcasts exploring the Maga voter. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #140

Pretty much Hekate Nov 2024 #154

Other apt adjectives are: shortsighted, simplistic, deluded, misinformed, shallow and selfish wishstar Nov 2024 #114

Stupid is as stupid does. LisaL Nov 2024 #115

How do you win over someone who thinks the earth is flat? Cartoonist Nov 2024 #116

We are a stupid, stupid country. It began decades ago with the dumbing down of public education... Hekate Nov 2024 #119

They are never going to be on our "side" ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #121

This! radical noodle Nov 2024 #135

By the end of the first year of the Trump reign of terror, they'll be calling themselves stupid. Vinca Nov 2024 #124

They're stupid, so they will find a way to blame us Hassler Nov 2024 #136

Nope. They will be misdirected to blame others. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #141

They will blame Democrats Hekate Nov 2024 #155

"Stupid" is the kindest possible interpretation of their actions 0rganism Nov 2024 #126

If they are not stupid then they are evil. The charitable thing is to assign stupidity as their major malfunction. Blues Heron Nov 2024 #128

They called some of their own supporters worse than stupid. Rhiagel Nov 2024 #130

Stupid? Somewhat. Racist, misogynist and white suppremacist? For sure... brush Nov 2024 #133

What do they call us? radical noodle Nov 2024 #134

A) They're stupid. B) Us calling them stupid or us Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #137

Not stupid. Racist and misogynist. alarimer Nov 2024 #143

I'm sick of caring BigMin28 Nov 2024 #144

With everything they call us, I'm B.See Nov 2024 #147

I think that the main flips were based on immigration and transgender ads JanMichael Nov 2024 #148

I'm treating them like adults RandySF Nov 2024 #151

Many tRump supporters are indeed stupid, willfully so. Sibelius Fan Nov 2024 #152

They knew what the stakes were. They practiced malicious inaction. They don't get a pass from me. Efilroft Sul Nov 2024 #153

A large portion of them ARE. Captain Zero Nov 2024 #157

Let me fix that for you. Why don't we go with unenlightened or racist or sexist or all of the above. Native Nov 2024 #163

The alternative to "stupid" is worse. maxsolomon Nov 2024 #168