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deepblue

(45 posts)
79. It is about software
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:42 PM
Nov 9

Look, it seems the guy testified under oath in the earlier Ohio case. I think he gets a little more space in our dialogue than would be afforded an anonymously circulated conspiracy theory. He said he kept talking about it after the Ohio case, and nobody cared, so he gave up. That sounds normal. All he says now is to take a hard look; he says recount, but I think simply looking at the voter rolls and other public information for a few precincts should be enough. The only thing about the guy that bothers me is that he seems to have had his hand in a number of different businesses, though software and election integrity is his core effort.

Another thing is, it does look like massive disinformation and misinformation lowered dem voter participation. This makes sense, because for decades we've said if we can get everybody to vote we will always win. And the Republicans agree with us, hence the voter suppression. However, if the loss due to massive lying is a main reason, why wouldn't they cheat or continue to perfect an ongoing, even if currently flawed, technique, on top of that. Republicans always overkill. Nixon had it in the bag without dirty tricks, yet he felt he needed to burgle offices for what was probably only marginally useful information, along with all the other things. Reagan too. It seems reasonably possible the Republicans are working on the devices. Like the guy says.

Though anything can be hacked, scanners backed up by paper records is reasonable, and possibly better than a hand count alone, in that separate records complicate things for the cheater. A single tabulator for a state sounds much more likely and hundreds of voting machines.

We don't do recounts and go to court to raise ghosts and say boo, like Giuliani. And even in 2020, they wanted nothing to do with recounts, only going to court with crap.

You can see a lot of reasonable elements are involved in my thinking, and when someone comes along and puts it on the line like this, I think it deserves serious consideration. Okay, I take your point. In some places a recount isn't possible by law. A deep forensic evaluation of a number of blue and red precincts should accomplish the same thing. Which should be the norm before a candidate concedes. Here Harris concedes after only a few hours, and Republicans still put the bum's rush on her by saying she waited too long. Uh-uh. Let's not ever again concede before the votes are counted. It's a hole the Republicans can drive through when it suits them, like they did with Gore, and we get nothing for it anyway. All ready only 53% of Democrats think the election was fair, saw that today. We get nothing on the subject of faith in election integrity by conceding early. The Republicans are seriously driving it down for us, also. It starts to make us look like we're easily rolled. We have enough trouble with that image all ready, even if we are internally stronger than they are.






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This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 9 #1
I am sure NJCher Nov 9 #3
maybe because there is nothing there. nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #8
sarcasm emoticon NJCher Nov 9 #23
Peaceful transfer of power Dem4life1234 Nov 9 #18
Plus being told that all results are based on ... littlemissmartypants Nov 9 #28
So, this is what it boils down to Otto_Harper Nov 9 #2
Putin and Trump are ruthless psychopaths who would do anything to take the WH. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #4
And Musk. milestogo Nov 9 #5
I spoke about the ruthless oligarchs, this is where Musk fits in. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #9
Nazi Blue Full Moon Nov 9 #13
Yes full on Nazi, drug addict, psychopath. At times psychotic. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #15
Hi Irish_Dem Blue Full Moon Nov 9 #66
hi my friend Irish_Dem Nov 9 #67
Fine and you Blue Full Moon Nov 9 #70
hanging in there Irish_Dem Nov 9 #73
Well put. ananda Nov 9 #6
It is just crime scene analysis 101 and psych profiling of the suspects. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #10
The CSI of politics... ananda Nov 9 #41
Calling cards, fingerprints, and signatures all over this crime scene. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #42
Disconfusing is now the name of the game then. ananda Nov 9 #45
We know the broad strokes of the crime and the guilty parties. Irish_Dem Nov 9 #46
That may well be true. I read that Greg Palast... ananda Nov 9 #61
Two decrepit old men Dem4life1234 Nov 9 #19
Kooky nonsense- Rational people, please read this: Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #7
Thank you n/t MacDo Nov 9 #11
The people who want to believe that there are no conspiracies are also the problem DSandra Nov 9 #12
The over 100 bomb threats in Democratic strongholds weren't a conspiracy theory. tintinvotes Nov 9 #37
Blackwell 2004; your conflation deepblue Nov 9 #14
Except at least four of the swing states Trump won have Dem Secs of State Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #16
Almost a fool. deepblue Nov 9 #20
My argument is the Harris campaign chose not to seek recounts Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #31
Uh, ok, sure. deepblue Nov 9 #50
This is just the swing states soandso Nov 9 #54
It is about software deepblue Nov 9 #79
Kamala conceded when there was no chance to turn it around soandso Nov 10 #80
Did your father testify to the Conyers commission? Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #58
Add to the list of co-conspirators: SCantiGOP Nov 9 #24
There are also county officials in red counties in those states AdamGG Nov 9 #25
give it time NJCher Nov 9 #26
this is my thought too proud patriot Nov 9 #33
Serious question: why didn't the Harris campaign seek recounts? Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #35
they are savvy communicators NJCher Nov 9 #38
Why should I waste my time "doing my own research"? (The motto of most CT enthusiasts) Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #40
didn't answer your question NJCher Nov 9 #53
The question remains, whether you consider it the "right" question or not. Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #56
Harris did not have all the information NJCher Nov 9 #59
FWIW... checking my vote today... electric_blue68 Nov 9 #75
I largely agree with you... AdamGG Nov 9 #43
not all of them NJCher Nov 9 #55
Some states do automatic soandso Nov 9 #47
Or...maybe it was done underneath their awareness? DSandra Nov 9 #64
Voter suppression is standing in line for more than 15 minutes, a state were people can vote by mail doesn't need long uponit7771 Nov 9 #29
Okay but Heck Nov 10 #83
You should pass this on to Mark Elias at Democracy Docket Fiendish Thingy Nov 10 #85
Greg Palast is addressing voter suppression, wnylib Nov 11 #90
So the kinds of things Trump/Giuliani claimed happened in 2020 and we dismissed as ridiculous onenote Nov 9 #17
So the, maybe this time the election should not be certified until all of these issues are transparently resolved? Jit423 Nov 9 #21
Not allowed to vote Steve C Nov 9 #22
I'm a New Mexican too and it was a blow out for Democrats here. Fish700 Nov 10 #82
"Vote Uncommitted" was also a form of voter suppression * Oopsie Daisy Nov 9 #27
That is not true soandso Nov 9 #52
LOL 🤣😂 Oopsie Daisy Nov 9 #60
Why is that funny? soandso Nov 9 #63
I think you already know... Oopsie Daisy Nov 9 #65
No, I don't know soandso Nov 9 #69
Any vote that did not benefit Harris was a vote for Trump. Oopsie Daisy Nov 9 #71
I wish them luck trying to change US foreign policy soandso Nov 9 #74
A sincere question for those trying to squash concerns about election integrity exmodee Nov 9 #30
Moscow Mitch blocked every piece of election reform and security legislation that came down the pike.. MaeScott Nov 9 #68
So, a couple social media links, a four year old article, Joe Rogan, and Greg Palast? progressoid Nov 9 #32
I am sure the truth will come forth Smackdown2019 Nov 9 #34
I'd like to think DARPA wouldn't miss this. (nt) Duncan Grant Nov 9 #36
There were several reports of bomb threats in Georgia's polling places.... AntiFascist Nov 9 #39
I don't know the details on those soandso Nov 9 #57
I believe the thinking was that some came from foreign countries like Russia... AntiFascist Nov 9 #76
All those states that removed mostly, likely Democratic voters, from the voter registration lists, followed by making it ShazamIam Nov 9 #44
TY Kick! Cha Nov 9 #48
The 2024 US Elections... The Greatest Show on Earth... ultralite001 Nov 9 #49
The link to Reddit thread has already been removed by moderators. The rest are equally suspect. Silent Type Nov 9 #51
What link to a reddit thread? nt LAS14 Nov 9 #72
The 4th link in OP. Gotta actually look before asking questions. Silent Type Nov 9 #78
Add THIS to the list: B.See Nov 9 #62
Thiel, Muskrat, and others moondust Nov 9 #77
TY for posting these Blue Owl Nov 10 #81
Here are the links I have Heck Nov 10 #84
Will there be tailgating before we storm the capitol? JoseBalow Nov 11 #86
No, but we should probably all flee to countries with working democracies if he takes office Heck Nov 11 #87
Sounds like something a MAGAt would say JoseBalow Nov 11 #88
Ok, who cares? Heck Nov 11 #89
. BoRaGard Nov 11 #91
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