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Septua

(2,636 posts) Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:44 AM Nov 10

Trump didn't really win; Kamala lost. [View all]

I know, it's a nonsensical comment.

Trump got the same number of votes this time as last. We know he lost some number of supporters, so he had to gain that number back. Where did he get them? Misogynistic Blacks or Latinos or Independents or maybe even some Democrats?

If Biden hadn't lost the confidence of voters and dropped out, would he have won?

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Trump didn't really win; Kamala lost. [View all] Septua Nov 10 OP

We will never find out if Biden would have won. LisaL Nov 10 #1

I found her campaign to be FarPoint Nov 10 #2

She isn't even asking for a recount. LisaL Nov 10 #3

just like magic! only the Muskrat knows Meadowoak Nov 10 #4

No, I think people just wouldn't buy that the economy was better here than anywhere else Dennis Donovan Nov 10 #5

...and most voters probably don't care about "anywhere else" In It to Win It Nov 10 #29

Fact is, Biden did lose confidence of voters. Think he would have done much worse than Harris. Silent Type Nov 10 #6

Could be relentless press and his own party be the reason for why Biden lost the LisaL Nov 10 #7

There was another debate planned too, in September Polybius Nov 10 #11

I'm sorry, no one was going to forget about that debate. I watched it and was shocked, and I'm close to Biden's age. Silent Type Nov 10 #15

Why aren't all the stupid things Trump said and did make it all over for him? LisaL Nov 10 #16

With a open primary maybe a better candidate would have come through oldmanlynn Nov 10 #19

Pres Biden aged over the 3 plus years--and it was noticeable. ... riversedge Nov 10 #20

Sure he had a bad performance, but he clearly won the debate, he was the one NOT lying EVERY sentence krawhitham Nov 10 #28

Love Joe Biden, but the biggest clip from that debate was trump saying, "I don't know what he just said, and I don't Silent Type Nov 10 #38

Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, say report krawhitham Nov 10 #31

We were all trying to explain away Biden's debate performance when that article was written on July 9. Silent Type Nov 10 #39

I agree with that. Septua Nov 10 #22

But why? kentuck Nov 10 #8

Harris made the race respectable IMO BeyondGeography Nov 10 #9

..major turnout problem... Septua Nov 10 #23

The Repugs painted everything in a false light. And you had Fox cheerleading for them. ificandream Nov 10 #10

Stop this blame game mudslinging crap onetexan Nov 10 #12

A laudable goal - but there is no way for that to occur FBaggins Nov 10 #35

People stayed home. Again it is their own fault, not Kamala's, not Joe's. Voters. Period. n/t valleyrogue Nov 10 #13

Turnout was better than in 2016. LisaL Nov 10 #14

Indeed - turnout was the highest in the last century except for 2020. FBaggins Nov 10 #34

Actually the American people lost. They are just too dumb to realize it yet. JohnSJ Nov 10 #17

It is indeed nonsensical FBaggins Nov 10 #18

Why did they not show up this time? LisaL Nov 10 #21

They were no longer motivated to vote against him FBaggins Nov 10 #24

No, the United States and the World Beyond lost. NNadir Nov 10 #25

Kamala did not lose. Rigpa108 Nov 10 #26

Team trDUMP capitalized on the discontent of the young male voting block. magicarpet Nov 10 #27

An alternative narrative is should Biden have been thrown under the bus after that debate ? CentralMass Nov 10 #30

I still don't buy that a record turnout had 15 million fewer votes than 2020. Initech Nov 10 #32

Your numbers are incorrect FBaggins Nov 10 #33

"California alone has between five and six million votes still uncounted" Septua Nov 10 #36

Not much of a chance there FBaggins Nov 10 #37

If I'm reading the link right, the uncounted votes are 10M Septua Nov 10 #40