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35. A laudable goal - but there is no way for that to occur

Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:52 PM

Nov 10

We lost fairly substantially in a race that many expected to win. There is no way to avoid the painful process of figuring out how the party should respond.

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Trump didn't really win; Kamala lost. [View all] Septua Nov 10 OP

We will never find out if Biden would have won. LisaL Nov 10 #1

I found her campaign to be FarPoint Nov 10 #2

She isn't even asking for a recount. LisaL Nov 10 #3

just like magic! only the Muskrat knows Meadowoak Nov 10 #4

No, I think people just wouldn't buy that the economy was better here than anywhere else Dennis Donovan Nov 10 #5

...and most voters probably don't care about "anywhere else" In It to Win It Nov 10 #29

Fact is, Biden did lose confidence of voters. Think he would have done much worse than Harris. Silent Type Nov 10 #6

Could be relentless press and his own party be the reason for why Biden lost the LisaL Nov 10 #7

There was another debate planned too, in September Polybius Nov 10 #11

I'm sorry, no one was going to forget about that debate. I watched it and was shocked, and I'm close to Biden's age. Silent Type Nov 10 #15

Why aren't all the stupid things Trump said and did make it all over for him? LisaL Nov 10 #16

With a open primary maybe a better candidate would have come through oldmanlynn Nov 10 #19

Pres Biden aged over the 3 plus years--and it was noticeable. ... riversedge Nov 10 #20

Sure he had a bad performance, but he clearly won the debate, he was the one NOT lying EVERY sentence krawhitham Nov 10 #28

Love Joe Biden, but the biggest clip from that debate was trump saying, "I don't know what he just said, and I don't Silent Type Nov 10 #38

Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, say report krawhitham Nov 10 #31

We were all trying to explain away Biden's debate performance when that article was written on July 9. Silent Type Nov 10 #39

I agree with that. Septua Nov 10 #22

But why? kentuck Nov 10 #8

Harris made the race respectable IMO BeyondGeography Nov 10 #9

..major turnout problem... Septua Nov 10 #23

The Repugs painted everything in a false light. And you had Fox cheerleading for them. ificandream Nov 10 #10

Stop this blame game mudslinging crap onetexan Nov 10 #12

A laudable goal - but there is no way for that to occur FBaggins Nov 10 #35

People stayed home. Again it is their own fault, not Kamala's, not Joe's. Voters. Period. n/t valleyrogue Nov 10 #13

Turnout was better than in 2016. LisaL Nov 10 #14

Indeed - turnout was the highest in the last century except for 2020. FBaggins Nov 10 #34

Actually the American people lost. They are just too dumb to realize it yet. JohnSJ Nov 10 #17

It is indeed nonsensical FBaggins Nov 10 #18

Why did they not show up this time? LisaL Nov 10 #21

They were no longer motivated to vote against him FBaggins Nov 10 #24

No, the United States and the World Beyond lost. NNadir Nov 10 #25

Kamala did not lose. Rigpa108 Nov 10 #26

Team trDUMP capitalized on the discontent of the young male voting block. magicarpet Nov 10 #27

An alternative narrative is should Biden have been thrown under the bus after that debate ? CentralMass Nov 10 #30

I still don't buy that a record turnout had 15 million fewer votes than 2020. Initech Nov 10 #32

Your numbers are incorrect FBaggins Nov 10 #33

"California alone has between five and six million votes still uncounted" Septua Nov 10 #36

Not much of a chance there FBaggins Nov 10 #37

If I'm reading the link right, the uncounted votes are 10M Septua Nov 10 #40