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Aepps22

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11. Pandemic

Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:26 PM

Nov 10

I think Biden’s numbers were inflated by the pandemic and people wanting a real leader to get us through. I don’t think many of those voters cared about anything other than beating Trump and I don’t think many of those voters planned to continue to engage in the political system. 4 years seems to be an eternity in the American political system and now that we aren’t in lockdown, I believe that many of those voters didn’t think the threat of another Trump term outside of another catastrophic pandemic was enough to fuel them to vote again.

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I'm tired of hearing about what Democrats should have done to reach the electorate. The choice was clear. [View all] D23MIURG23 Nov 10 OP

Well said. I couldn't agree more. Marigold Nov 10 #1

Absolutely. As I said elsewhere B.See Nov 11 #58

Whether all of that is true or not is largely irrelevant. What we did clearly didn't work. TwilightZone Nov 10 #2

That's the point - it isn't about what they did. D23MIURG23 Nov 10 #10

Gold! appalachiablue Nov 10 #23

I hear Bill Cosby is available. n/t Yavin4 Nov 11 #50

Pandemic Aepps22 Nov 10 #11

Vote gap krkaufman Nov 11 #77

The answer to this is EASY!!!!!! Trueblue Texan Nov 11 #51

I don't think it had much to do with what Dems did except that probably some people were not ready to elect a LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #62

This and a lot of people's lives suck. Fish700 Nov 11 #71

Seirously we got killed on just getting our messaging out through the media... it didn't matter what we said LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #83

The majority of American adults are intellectually and morally bankrupt. RockRaven Nov 10 #3

And purposefully ignorant! RainCaster Nov 11 #89

The OP is well said 👏 Deuxcents Nov 10 #4

All voters had the information. A majority didn't understand what they really voted for. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 10 #5

"you can fool some of the people all of the time. rampartd Nov 11 #93

Voters REJECTED Freedom, Democracy, and Going Forward. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 10 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 10 #17

Who said landlide? He will probably win by less than 3% TheKentuckian Nov 11 #56

It would be well distributed if Elon and pals stole it. Pad a little here, take away some there. travelingthrulife Nov 11 #72

It's white supremacy and patriarchy. yardwork Nov 11 #79

I heard bdamomma Nov 10 #29

And they rejected science kansasobama Nov 10 #32

Many would not be alive without it.... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 11 #70

Thank you! mcar Nov 10 #7

He has a very small one. bdamomma Nov 10 #36

I paid very little attention to what the Presidential Candidates said BOSSHOG Nov 10 #8

Correct, and he vowed even higher tariffs...20%. brush Nov 10 #9

The man has been on tv for 10years. Voters knew him for worse or Better FloridaBlues Nov 10 #12

They voted for "different." This country goes through whiplash. It always wants "different", whether it be good or bad In It to Win It Nov 10 #13

Yup Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #15

We need an effective resistance kansasobama Nov 10 #33

Yes we do! Magoo48 Nov 11 #82

I think you have average voter psychology nailed. They're trying to hit refresh until they get what they want. D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #67

Correct Cosmocat Nov 10 #14

Religion is a factor - TBF Nov 10 #21

it is definitely more than one thing Cosmocat Nov 11 #63

Uuummm... Putin? GiqueCee Nov 10 #16

And/Or they were not properly informed Jarqui Nov 10 #18

I think you are right, Demiurge. Plus the misogyny stinks to high heaven. nt Hekate Nov 10 #19

the problem is endless and pervasive disinfo form the right LymphocyteLover Nov 10 #20

well said proud patriot Nov 10 #22

You can't fix stupid and plenty of voters are idiots Tribetime Nov 10 #24

Voters were well informed and chose criminality anyway. They're accomplices. Duncan Grant Nov 10 #25

One More Thing To Consider DallasNE Nov 10 #26

And now we have a huge cohort of young adults who missed almost two years of schooling due to COVID shutdowns... Mark.b2 Nov 10 #35

Low media literacy Ndp5 Nov 10 #42

Be tired all you want. But if you want to win again, you haven't said what people also WANTED that changed their votes ancianita Nov 10 #27

Yes, the choice was clear...to us. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #40

Yep, to us. ancianita Nov 10 #41

Well said BannonsLiver Nov 10 #45

Yep, it was a mass suicide event, the electorate drank the poison kool aid with there own free will yaesu Nov 10 #28

Biden resign and save democracy. since you have immunity do something. rich7862 Nov 10 #30

That explains the people who voted for trump oldmanlynn Nov 10 #31

It's 10 mil now Terry_M Nov 10 #38

Not if you don't really pay much attention Terry_M Nov 10 #34

Well said. Good post. Thank you. ancianita Nov 11 #53

What YOU said!!!!! LilElf70 Nov 10 #37

If you don't vote demodonkey Nov 11 #49

So you're prepared to continue losing? iemanja Nov 10 #39

I can fix neither malignancy nor stupidity. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #47

So the answer is yes iemanja Nov 11 #52

Oh yeah, if winning is dependent on my fixing big bang level stupidity TheKentuckian Nov 11 #61

Obviously I can't iemanja Nov 11 #68

2008, 2012. 2020 are not material. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #73

The electorate is going to get what it voted for, and a lot of them are going to discover they don't like it. D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #64

"Reach" wasn't enough, had to convince them they wrong about better times ahead. Most were unreachable. Silent Type Nov 10 #43

You Make a Lot of Good Points, D23! The Roux Comes First Nov 10 #44

I really don't give a shit why they are Nazi scum. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #48

THIS. B.See Nov 11 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 10 #46

Like I said in my OP a couple of days ago. We are not in control. 700 billionaires are. Initech Nov 11 #54

So, you wouldn't have done ANYTHING differently? n/t hard2figure Nov 11 #55

No. What do you think we should have done differently? D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #65

Beautifully said! BluRay76 Nov 11 #59

We gotta live in the real world, not in the world we'd rather live in struggle4progress Nov 11 #60

I am tired as well. LisaL Nov 11 #66

I agree 100% DiverDave Nov 11 #69

Absolutely right. No eggs, but plenty of cigarettes and alcohol . . . hawkeye21 Nov 11 #74

You got that exactly right DemonGoddess Nov 11 #75

Democrats underestimated the moral and ethical depravity of the majority of American voters Zorro Nov 11 #76

Yup. nt LAS14 Nov 11 #78

I agree. The choice was clear. decency and democracy, or indecency and authoritarianism. Respect for the Constitution or Martin68 Nov 11 #80

Thank you, you put your finger on it. AleksS Nov 11 #81

Kamala Harris lost due due to the short sighted and poorly thought-out choices by those who "call" themselves Democrats. elocs Nov 11 #84

Our division of wealth and resources is now worse than 18th Century France IbogaProject Nov 11 #85

thanks, I needed that. Hamlette Nov 11 #86

I regret that I can only rec this once. RandomNumbers Nov 11 #87

You nailed it Progressive dog Nov 11 #88

Goddamn right. Piratedog Nov 11 #90

Disgusted Piratedog Nov 11 #91

"They just elected a fucking Hurricane"? Seems more like a big yellow garbage disposal to me. calimary Nov 11 #92