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flamingdem

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61. Yes but if we look only at the abortion issue

Reply to yardwork (Reply #58)

Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:14 AM

Nov 11

there could be some conclusions there about what people will and will not vote for - and how the messaging has been interrupted by right wing media.

IMO, we have to learn from this and make changes to the messaging and focus.

Also, we were pretty convinced that she would win. Somehow we need better predictive tools.

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Go Away!! SoCalDavidS Nov 10 #1

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That was mostly here. Fish700 Nov 11 #62

Didn't watch the video but Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #2

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What do you disagree with? flamingdem Nov 10 #10

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Your second to last sentence misanthrope Nov 11 #46

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Do ANY of the experts who are telling us what the Harris Team did wrong start Tadpole Raisin Nov 10 #5

People thought she would win because she kept proving herself as decent and competent JI7 Nov 10 #12

I'm more interesting in hearing from Michael Moore Polybius Nov 10 #6

This is from before the election and no longer flamingdem Nov 10 #13

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Moore supported Nader in 2000 GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #23

Professional yakker wins either way, more to yak about. CoopersDad Nov 10 #7

The first president in decades to slightly lower income inequality is Biden karynnj Nov 10 #28

More accurately, Bill Clinton. marble falls Nov 11 #57

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hmmm Kali999 Nov 11 #53

I'm refering to specific policies inacted by Dems & Libs that actully harm the repugs quality of life. Hotler Nov 11 #60

What Rush Limbaugh did until the day he died. Kid Berwyn Nov 11 #55

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There was a guy named Howard Stern at one time. Klarkashton Nov 10 #34

She is a woman. That is all Freddie Nov 10 #11

That's obviously not all flamingdem Nov 10 #14

Obama was never a woman. LisaL Nov 10 #17

Women are always at the bottom GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #24

I am not buying it. Women Senate candidates in NV, MN, WI, and MI outperformed VP Harris. Why? nt kelly1mm Nov 11 #41

They weren't running for the top job GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #42

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Disappointing you don't understand the hardships GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #67

If your following statement is true then how do you explain MN, WI,MI women Senators all kelly1mm Nov 11 #70

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She's a Black woman Bettie Nov 10 #29

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So at some point either we have to find a way for women to win or fucking not run women. I fucking like option A. SoFlaBro Nov 10 #39

Maybe go back to Howard Deans 50 state strategy TheDemsshouldhireme Nov 10 #15

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Yes, hard to make it work flamingdem Nov 10 #19

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Exactly. Xolodno Nov 10 #37

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What part of that 70 percent were people who displacedvermoter Nov 12 #76

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Exactly. Talk about identity politics! yardwork Nov 11 #59

White people... yardwork Nov 11 #51

We should have known this flamingdem Nov 11 #52

I don't think it was folly on our part. yardwork Nov 11 #54

Then why didn't the convincing work? flamingdem Nov 11 #56

It didn't work because Trump voters were misinformed. or selfish or irrational. yardwork Nov 11 #58

Yes but if we look only at the abortion issue flamingdem Nov 11 #61

I hope the DNC can do that. yardwork Nov 11 #65

The abortion issue mercuryblues Nov 11 #68

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