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39. Summary of evidence and concerns: (sources at bottom)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 11

Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.


Starlink, Elon's satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).

Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she'd been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).

They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what's real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn't agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).

Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver's license. It's not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).

Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It's why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn't tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it's the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn't a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups interner algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.

Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).

If you're in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.

News Links

(1)

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(2) https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musk-weighing-trump-staffing-decisions-sources/story?id=115730434

(3) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html

(4) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html

(5) https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-ex-girlfriend-dated-kimbal-musk-brother-of-tesla-founder-elon-musk-2020-1

(6) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fire-and-fury-the-podcast/id1750757108

(7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes

(8) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-elon-musks-reported-phone-calls-with-putin-and-why-it-matters

(9) https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-using-thousands-spacex-starlink-terminals-ukraine-wsj-says-2024-02-15/

(10) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1gnxqmw/elon_musks_company_starlink_praised_by_tulare/

(11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436

(12) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-georgias-effort-to-secure-voting-machines-as-experts-raise-concerns

(13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615

(14) https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/

(15) https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986

(16) https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/tana-mongeau-paid-political-endorsement

(17) https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e

(18) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

(19) https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/499968-russian-space-chief-elon-musks-plan-to-bomb-mars-is-a-cover-to-put/

(20) https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11

(21) https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots

(22) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/far-right-extremists-raise-millions-cryptocurrency-bitcoin/

(23) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/crypto-cryptocurrency-money-conspiracy.html

(24) https://apnews.com/article/cryptocurrency-coronavirus-pandemic-technology-business-europe-f7f754fc2c68b0eb0d712239323f26c3

(25) https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/11/10/its-unsustainable-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-issues-us-serious-bankruptcy-warning-amid-huge-bitcoin-and-dogecoin-price-surge/

Personal Testimony from the dickbags themselves:

youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y

In the first minute:

"Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico."

"If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he's referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/if-trump-loses-im-fcked-elon-musk-in-interview-with-tucker-carlson/articleshow/114024254.cms

“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”

Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?

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Trump:"Our little secret is having a big impact"

If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn't he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn't get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn't he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn't he want an investigation this time?
I thought the tabulators were also not hooked to the internet? Dennis Donovan Nov 11 #1
Perhaps not, but SheltieLover Nov 11 #3
Also, Shitler winning ALL of the swing states doesn't smell right. OMGWTF Nov 12 #89
The backhaul to the the secretary of state was by Starlink I believe. LiberalArkie Nov 11 #6
I agree Linda ladeewolf Nov 12 #91
Not in Virginia Beck23 Nov 11 #34
And who won Virginia? Mm Hmm. That's right. dchill Nov 11 #46
And not only that SomedayKindaLove Nov 11 #66
This is true, but Harris underperformed Biden by 5 pts AkFemDem Nov 13 #101
Tabulators in some counties like Duval do connect to the internet once the polls are closed. lostnfound Nov 12 #94
Do they actually run the data to tape? Dennis Donovan Nov 12 #95
Link? I keep seeing this compsiracy theroy, but there is never a link. FSogol Nov 11 #2
This article says they used Starlink tintinvotes Nov 11 #12
WHAT THE MUTHA FUCK ?! NO... hell naw !! NEVER would GQP allow dems billionair donor to be involved in any part uponit7771 Nov 11 #23
Baldwin says access to connectivity was improved this year thanks to Starlink satellite internet. Dennis Donovan Nov 11 #37
Many, MANY thanks to Starlink satellite internet, I'm sure. dchill Nov 11 #47
JHMC orangecrush Nov 11 #65
Thats not for counting votes Zeitghost Nov 11 #69
Link tintinvotes Nov 11 #70
California law forbids it Zeitghost Nov 11 #73
Maga tintinvotes Nov 11 #78
And this article says it wasnt. hootman Nov 11 #74
Investigate tintinvotes Nov 12 #90
You're bringing up the same nonsense the Qanon people did 4yrs ago hootman Nov 12 #97
Trust, but don't verify tintinvotes Nov 12 #99
Split ticket voting BEAT trump in 2020. hootman Nov 13 #100
Proof tintinvotes Nov 13 #104
Yes a LOT of these idiots work for Russia. We have the receipts. hootman Nov 13 #105
Giving up shouldn't be an option tintinvotes Nov 13 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author tintinvotes Nov 13 #107
Fraud tintinvotes Nov 13 #108
It's a conversation that some IT people are having. A discussion. I looked up Autumn Nov 11 #26
Mucho, mucho air between the ground and the Starlink satellite... dchill Nov 11 #51
I thought the famous Karl Rove - Megyn Kelly . . . John1956PA Nov 11 #4
Rove was astonished in 2012 about Ohio NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #7
Thank you for correcting me. I was mistaken about the year. n/t John1956PA Nov 11 #10
No problem... I remember when that happened NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #63
Trump stole it, fair and square. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #5
Starlink was used tintinvotes Nov 11 #8
Probably Why OH Looked Suspect In 2004 SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #9
Starlink didn't exist until 2019, so you can rule out OH. ancianita Nov 11 #17
Can rule out Star Link gab13by13 Nov 11 #20
Right I was not suggesting Starlink WAS INVOLVED in OHIO. IT WAS NOT. It was two different election 1 old one current. usaf-vet Nov 11 #27
Okay. So in this context of your OP, Rove's team looked suspect then, yes, but not now. ancianita Nov 11 #30
Exactly! Again apologies for the confusion. My wife is away with the "girls" at quilting camp. She's my proof reader.... usaf-vet Nov 11 #40
According to Politfact this is another conspiracy. hootman Nov 11 #75
Again djt loaths rules, proceedures, and laws. magicarpet Nov 11 #11
Thanks. This needed to be said and needs a thoroughinvestigation. As I've said elsewhere, noone should rule out Starlink ancianita Nov 11 #13
Until Harris, Biden, etc., call for a recount, I'll sadly believe we lost. Silent Type Nov 11 #14
Why has Harris called for a recount. There is no problem doing that oldmanlynn Nov 11 #38
Why doesn't someone email them with this Linda ladeewolf Nov 11 #71
A current IT technician seems to think like you do. Autumn Nov 11 #15
I have a question for the poster, gab13by13 Nov 11 #16
If it was just for Casey then probably not oldmanlynn Nov 11 #42
If they have printed receipts or paper ballots yes. If the people read the receipt as it prints out that is. Hope22 Nov 11 #45
If it were done by a program, they would have to do a forensic investigation of the software, probably Meowmee Nov 11 #59
Didn't dumpy say before the election he already had enough votes, or something like that? Diamond_Dog Nov 11 #18
I've just always wondered what happens to the vote totals Eliot Rosewater Nov 11 #19
Looks like my question has been answered the answer is yes Starlink Eliot Rosewater Nov 11 #41
Yes after the 2004 Ohio theft for Bush V. Kerry Carl Rove pretty much showed his hand in 2012 joanbarnes Nov 11 #21
Now... -misanthroptimist Nov 11 #22
Yes, that's why recounts are done. Think. Again. Nov 11 #53
But Exit Polls ...... groundloop Nov 11 #24
Obviously investigations need to be performed to find reliable evidence. The chick egg or horse wagon which comes first. usaf-vet Nov 11 #43
They could have been Linda ladeewolf Nov 11 #72
they have every reason to have us chasing our tails over a supposed stolen election while they lock up power LymphocyteLover Nov 12 #98
I don't have information to share, but want to add a comment. The Musk - Starlink connection is extremely suspicious. liberalla Nov 11 #25
How do you know that Starlink was used to upload data to state tabulators? waterwatcher123 Nov 11 #28
It is admitted that starlink was used in this article... Think. Again. Nov 11 #52
This news article is pretty interesting - it mentions Starlink and a significant increase in first time voter turn out. waterwatcher123 Nov 12 #92
Bookmarking cilla4progress Nov 11 #29
Glad I am not the only suspicious one Loupe Garoue Nov 11 #31
Are encryption keys used BadgerKid Nov 11 #32
Sounds like Ohio in 2004 Beck23 Nov 11 #33
And We Rolled Over That Time Too SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #76
Didn't exactly roll over gab13by13 Nov 11 #80
Easy to believe that this or something like this happened. CoopersDad Nov 11 #35
I'm having a hard time JustAnotherGen Nov 11 #36
I don't know if this is specifically the case in NC, but there were many voters who voted for Trump but LauraInLA Nov 11 #44
living in NC I can believe it neohippie Nov 11 #50
The Repug Governor candidate Robinson was embroiled by scandals MichMan Nov 13 #102
Summary of evidence and concerns: (sources at bottom) Heck Nov 11 #39
Because he won. He doesnt give a shit johnnyfins Nov 11 #68
They look on Karl Rove's face on fox when Obama won the Ohio vote Clouds Passing Nov 11 #48
And no response or investigations from our current gov Meowmee Nov 11 #49
Why on earth was this even allowed? Figarosmom Nov 11 #54
Back in 2020, I was hoping trump Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #55
I was just about to post a question on this. I hesitated because I didn't want to break any rules I am not sure of. Jit423 Nov 11 #56
There would have to be a lot of people involved Diraven Nov 11 #57
WHAT WENT WROOONGGG! Thats all I've heard in a week. Boomerproud Nov 11 #58
It has to be something like this malaise Nov 11 #60
Weeks before the election he also said these things Jit423 Nov 11 #61
The #s just don't make any sense unless there has been some kind of malfeasance Botany Nov 12 #83
Yep Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #62
Oh don't be silly Cirsium Nov 11 #64
Stephen Spoonamore is good source .... Viz Nov 11 #67
This is a formal Duty to Warn Letter. - Gov. of Pennsylvania J. Shapiro, et al. - Nov. 7th 2024 ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 12 #84
Wasn't the IP address of the server that transmits the votes LittleGirl Nov 11 #77
You know how easy it would be to get tRump to confess? Blue Owl Nov 11 #79
And the magats would all cheer. mdbl Nov 12 #82
Swing state percentages are very nearly the same. Needs a forensic investigation. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 12 #81
Thank you for this. lark Nov 12 #85
just like 2008 DonCoquixote Nov 12 #86
They would have been caught Progressive dog Nov 12 #87
Not Just Swing States Phil1967 Nov 12 #88
Sorry and YOUR evidence is? Other than your a Trump supporter. usaf-vet Nov 12 #96
The numbers are all publicly available Zeitghost Nov 13 #109
Sure the numbers that could all be lies. When the Republicans lose it is ALWAYS a stolen election. When they "win"..... usaf-vet Nov 13 #110
After years of being told there was no evidence of election rigging now the shoe is on the other foot neohippie Nov 12 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 13 #103
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