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Jarqui

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6. This gave me some pause on that

Mon Nov 11, 2024, 05:24 PM

Nov 11

https://abc30.com/post/tulare-county-sees-larger-voter-turnout-during-2024-presidential-election/15519472/

"I just wanna say thank you to all our poll workers, inspectors for making yesterday an amazing day. We didn't have long lines after 8pm, everyone got processed and through those lines quickly. And that is due to all their hard work and dedication that they do out at the poll sites," said Tulare County Registrar of Voters Michelle Baldwin.

Baldwin says access to connectivity was improved this year thanks to Starlink satellite internet.

Elon Musk's Starlink is involved with connectivity to poll sites?

It seems stupid not to take a look. Musk was all in for Trump & his disinformation on twitter

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There are legitimate questions being asked about the validity of the voting outcomes.... [View all] Think. Again. Nov 11 OP

extreme tin foil hat territory right there... WarGamer Nov 11 #1

Just asking questions! JoseBalow Nov 11 #2

State 2 of grieving... subscribing to crazy ass conspiracy theories? WarGamer Nov 11 #4

There are valid reasons why post-election audits are mandatory in most states.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #7

Documented example of flipping votes from voter's intention. 20 counties, PA lostnfound Nov 11 #132

They don't involve starlink either. reACTIONary Nov 11 #133

No, I consider CTs to be stage 3 "bargaining". I prefer the purity of stage 2 anger. notroot Nov 11 #10

Insults to discourage discourse are worse. live love laugh Nov 11 #28

We should always push back against misinformation Kaleva Nov 11 #36

"We" who? And what misinformation? live love laugh Nov 11 #98

Unsubstantiated rumors based on... reACTIONary Nov 11 #140

Is it a rumor that Starlink was only connected to battleground states? live love laugh Nov 11 #164

You tell me... reACTIONary Nov 12 #173

What actual evidence has been provided that the election was stolen? Kaleva Nov 11 #157

You didn't answer my question yet you want to quash questions. live love laugh Nov 11 #162

I'm asking "Where is the evidence that the election was stolen?". Kaleva Nov 11 #166

You don't answer a question with a question. live love laugh Nov 11 #167

So you don't have any actual evidence to support your claim? Kaleva Nov 11 #169

What "claim"? live love laugh Nov 11 #171

You don't get to chart the course of discussion about the election. live love laugh Nov 11 #165

It is your right to believe falsehoods Kaleva Nov 11 #168

You have zero proof of falsehoods. live love laugh Nov 11 #172

The fact that there is no proof of actual election fraud is a biggie Kaleva Nov 12 #176

Questions are being asked and you don't want that. What's wrong with live love laugh Nov 12 #184

That's a good point that you made. What is wrong with asking questions? XorXor Nov 12 #202

Well we certainly shouldn't encourage Trump-style baseless conspiracy theories. tritsofme Nov 11 #58

Calling BS is... reACTIONary Nov 11 #143

It's "stages," not "states" NJCher Nov 11 #121

I know... g and t nearby on keyboard :) WarGamer Nov 11 #123

This gave me some pause on that Jarqui Nov 11 #6

As an IT person (but NOT networking expert) RandomNumbers Nov 11 #62

Tulare County is in CA Jarqui Nov 11 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #181

This anecdote gave me a little pause too Jarqui Nov 11 #12

Well isn't that interesting? liberalla Nov 11 #19

Debunked. littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #105

Where did Rogan bring up Polymarket? Jarqui Nov 11 #131

Rogan is an idiot. littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #103

Well if Joe Rogan says it... reACTIONary Nov 11 #144

I'll wait until the DNC and the Harris/Walz campaign start asking questions. nt LAS14 Nov 11 #3

I'm betting they're asking questions NJCher Nov 11 #114

I am SO hoping... yellow dahlia Nov 11 #135

For weeks Harris visited the battleground states virtually non-stop. GreenWave Nov 11 #5

Michael Moore knew Hillary was trailing but he thought Harris was not. nt pnwmom Nov 11 #13

Well why did Harris keep bringing the big guns to those 7 states? GreenWave Nov 11 #14

Because those 7 states determine the election regardless of the popular vote. pnwmom Nov 11 #17

Question: why didn't Trump keep bringing big guns to those states or doing much at all?? live love laugh Nov 11 #29

Trump wants all the attention for himself. Ace Rothstein Nov 11 #31

That doesn't answer the question. live love laugh Nov 11 #34

Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock were around. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #51

Because he knew he didn't need to? whathehell Nov 11 #53

Because he knew it was in the bag for him. n/t yellow dahlia Nov 11 #137

I'm sure the democratic governor and democratic AG jimfields33 Nov 12 #201

Why did he hold a hate rally at MSG instead of focusing on swing states? live love laugh Nov 11 #32

No, because in an important election NJCher Nov 11 #129

lol, is Moore supposed to be some sort of sage or fortune-teller? tritsofme Nov 11 #60

The pollsters and other prognosticators strongly predicted a Hillary win in 2016 -- except for Michael Moore, pnwmom Nov 11 #64

Ok...his guess was right once and wrong another time. Happens to me too sometimes. tritsofme Nov 11 #67

And Michael Moore knows everything? LeftInTX Nov 11 #136

this means she was campaigning stillcool Nov 11 #78

not necessarily NJCher Nov 11 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #182

and she did close the gap with her visits LymphocyteLover Nov 12 #186

Wut??? EndlessWire Nov 11 #8

That's a legitimate question. Think. Again. Nov 11 #9

I don't know anything EndlessWire Nov 11 #11

According to Tulare County Registrar of Voters Michelle Baldwin.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #15

OMG! n/t EndlessWire Nov 11 #16

Voting machines and tabulators don't have modems Abnredleg Nov 11 #20

That would be good to verify... Think. Again. Nov 11 #21

It is a Government Standard Abnredleg Nov 11 #26

Oh, so it is NOT a steadfast, across the board fact. Scary. Think. Again. Nov 11 #27

It is the standard Abnredleg Nov 11 #37

Unless I'm mistaken.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #46

Does this mean you think Trump, Rudy and Pillow Guy were right to be suspicious of the result in 2020? onenote Nov 11 #52

Yes, they are well-known to use projection to .... Think. Again. Nov 11 #54

It is a concern for those who don't understand IT security Abnredleg Nov 11 #66

It is in Tulare County CA Zeitghost Nov 11 #55

There it is! The Tulare County Registrar of Voters Michelle Baldwin.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #56

It's not the voting system Zeitghost Nov 11 #61

Duval county: "Tabulators only connect to internet after the polls are closed" lostnfound Nov 11 #88

Thanks! reACTIONary Nov 11 #148

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That you know of. live love laugh Nov 11 #30

Any facts, or do you only push conspiracy theories? Abnredleg Nov 11 #40

Why would you be so vehemently against post-election audits? Think. Again. Nov 11 #48

Audits are part of the certification process Abnredleg Nov 11 #65

Audits are not mandatory and I have not seen any indication they are being done. Think. Again. Nov 11 #74

Then it is time to educate yourself Abnredleg Nov 11 #80

I still see no indication that audits are being done. Think. Again. Nov 11 #82

If they weren't being done as required people would be yelling Abnredleg Nov 11 #84

Audits are not necessarily "required". Think. Again. Nov 11 #95

They were when I poll watched during a recount LeftInTX Nov 11 #130

every state has different election laws... stillcool Nov 11 #99

Thanks again! reACTIONary Nov 11 #149

You have no facts. live love laugh Nov 11 #145

Unfortunately - some voting machines DO HAVE MODEMS - and ARE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET!!!! ElementaryPenguin Nov 11 #170

Do you know how this would work? EndlessWire Nov 11 #23

I agree that due to musk's company being in the middle... Think. Again. Nov 11 #24

Nobody in CA uses Starlink to transmit voting data Zeitghost Nov 11 #57

Yes, I heard it was used in all the battleground Quakerfriend Nov 11 #18

No! Starlink is internet. If you have a Starlink ISP, you get LeftInTX Nov 11 #139

Starlink is an internet service provider, like... reACTIONary Nov 11 #147

If you encrypt the data end to end with PGP signatures, there is little way to tamper with the data packets. SoFlaBro Nov 11 #22

But it is still possible, isn't it? And wouldn't it be worth doing audits anyway? Think. Again. Nov 11 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #35

I agree. Think. Again. Nov 11 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #49

If you throw enough money and resources at any encryption algorithm, it can eventually be fucking defeated. SoFlaBro Nov 11 #63

There is no encrypted signal to intercept and change Zeitghost Nov 11 #68

The Tulare County Registrar of Voters Michelle Baldwin.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #72

Connectivity to the voter registration system Zeitghost Nov 11 #76

Well, I hope post-election audits are done.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #77

They are Zeitghost Nov 11 #79

That's for epollbooks. Checkin data. LeftInTX Nov 11 #134

More like if you start walking, at some point.... reACTIONary Nov 11 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #33

No, because she is not a fan of baseless conspiracy theories. tritsofme Nov 11 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #83

Sometimes the truth hurts. This nonsense sounds exactly like the Trumpers four years ago. tritsofme Nov 11 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #94

So again, why do you suppose Kamala Harris accepts the results? tritsofme Nov 11 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #110

That's because it is a conspiracy theory. I'm still curious why you believe Kamala is not questioning the results? tritsofme Nov 11 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #117

If folks want to live in fantasy-land, that is certainly their prerogative. tritsofme Nov 12 #199

Donate to Jill Stein, so she can scam for recounts LeftInTX Nov 11 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #146

Actually, She and her campaign are raising monies for to do recounts. I believe that she announced it almost an hour & The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 11 #106

Is this not standard practice for any campaign? tritsofme Nov 11 #108

Apparently, NO it's NOT something EVERY campaign does...In fact, it appears that this happened 4 times & it's always The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 11 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author tritsofme Nov 11 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 11 #38

Is Kamala Harris insane for "believing" the results? Or just stupid? Perhaps complicit in the steal? tritsofme Nov 11 #70

Is Garland too slow? Cetacea Nov 12 #178

Is he part of this goofy conspiracy theory now too? tritsofme Nov 12 #200

Audits of voting machine systems Zeitghost Nov 11 #71

Only one out of the seven swing states has audits that are "binding" on the outcome... Think. Again. Nov 11 #122

How many have reported issues that have come up during the non binding audits? Zeitghost Nov 11 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #113

For reference... 2naSalit Nov 11 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 11 #41

OK, here's the thing. ananda Nov 11 #42

Yes, why not simply do audits? Think. Again. Nov 11 #44

What, exactly, is the "thing" that needs to be solved? reACTIONary Nov 11 #153

There are flaws ForgedCrank Nov 11 #45

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And? ForgedCrank Nov 12 #193

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #194

Well, you ForgedCrank Nov 12 #195

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #196

Ok, then ForgedCrank Nov 12 #198

I don't think they're done unless there is a reason Meowmee Nov 11 #47

I believe post-election audits are highly recommended... Think. Again. Nov 11 #50

In my state audits are automatically done. My state also has paper ballots pnwmom Nov 11 #73

Good Meowmee Nov 11 #75

If there had been that kind of problem in our tabulation machines, pnwmom Nov 11 #87

Not necessarily according to the programmer Meowmee Nov 11 #91

No, I'm not talking about testing the tabulation machine itself. I understood what Spoonamore said. pnwmom Nov 11 #92

Yes I see Meowmee Nov 11 #101

I wish they would investigate, too. If Democrats were falling for Trump all over the country, pnwmom Nov 11 #107

Sadly they won't imo Meowmee Nov 11 #112

AND THIS.... Cha Nov 11 #59

first thing I've read that makes perfect sense stillcool Nov 11 #81

Yes and we knew it.. We Got Enough HINTS. questions about HOW they did Cha Nov 11 #89

you just know it isn't right stillcool Nov 11 #104

That one thing is Everything! Cha Nov 11 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #124

Aloha, Chin music Cha Nov 11 #127

Air Putins Kid Berwyn Nov 12 #197

Thank you, Yse they do. Cha Nov 12 #203

Let's Go stillspkg Nov 11 #85

Short Answer Botany Nov 11 #86

There were a lot of ways in which the election was "rigged" ColinC Nov 11 #93

I guess audits would show that. Think. Again. Nov 11 #97

Audits likely did show that. Audits are a part of most state's voting laws. ColinC Nov 11 #100

Only one out of the seven swing states has audits that are "binding" on the final outcome... Think. Again. Nov 11 #118

How many of the non-binding audits show irregularities? Zeitghost Nov 11 #151

Have they even started audits yet? Think. Again. Nov 11 #154

GOP access and copying of tabulator software deemed "serious threat to election security" lostnfound Nov 11 #116

And that doesn't even address the stolen voting machine from Georgia last year. Think. Again. Nov 11 #119

Every gaslighting disrupter on this sight cannot imagine such a thing tenderfoot Nov 11 #126

Every state I've been in has a nice systematic process. Igel Nov 11 #138

Wasn't '04 the election where Ohio shunted it's results.... Think. Again. Nov 11 #142

The Central Tabulating Office in Warren County was shut down Cetacea Nov 12 #177

And it's beginning to seem like the lower atmospheric orbit is 2024's Ohio. Think. Again. Nov 12 #180

Thanks! reACTIONary Nov 11 #152

Hi! This isn't hanging chads and dead people voting in Miami Algernon Moncrieff Nov 11 #155

I believe there is a chance trump may have cheated, and would like to... Think. Again. Nov 11 #156

Kamala got thumped square and fair Algernon Moncrieff Nov 11 #160

I respect that opinion, do you respect my opinion that trump may have tried to cheat in some way? Think. Again. Nov 11 #161

Nope. Americans are idiots. And Harris ran a weak race Algernon Moncrieff Nov 11 #163

Harris ran an exemplary race, especially given the time frame Babajida Nov 12 #174

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I disagree... Think. Again. Nov 12 #175

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I suppose that you don't know that Gore won Cetacea Nov 12 #179

Yes he did win questionseverything Nov 12 #185

I'm looking at the exit polls. Haven't seen anything so far. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 11 #158

That's one indicator that works sometimes... Think. Again. Nov 12 #192

I keep singing the same refrain. yellow dahlia Nov 11 #159

I ask the same thing Dem4life1234 Nov 12 #188